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General => General Games => Topic started by: neothe0ne on January 07, 2006, 07:36:15 pm
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-Blu-Ray players cost $1,200-$1,800+ (HD-DVD players cost $499-$799+)
-Sony's Blu-Ray player won't arrive until summer
-Dead or Alive 4 for XBOX 360 outsells all PSP titles in Japan
-GameCube still outselling Xbox 360 in Japan
-DS sells over 13 million worldwide since launch (DS can well overtake GC by the end of 2006, I say, which is kind of sad..)
-Japan seeing a real DS shortage (sales are crazy in Japan, hundreds of thousands every week)
-Take Two expects PS3 to launch in late 2006, lowers earnings expectations, delays 360 titles, will port GTA PSP to PS2 not even half a year after its release....
AND LAST BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST:
-Peter Moore is officially a jackass. There shouldn't be any doubt as to why DreamCast tanked now, regardless of Sega's financial situation. First Peter Moore says "Xbox 360 is a superior culture than Sony [PS2]" (in Japan), next Peter Moore says "Japanese recording is primitive" (in response to being confronted by 360's low sales).
I say Nintendo has the right picture, and Microsoft and Sony are losing it.
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FINALLY! Someone shares my views about the gaming world in its' current state! *applauds Neo*
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Microsoft never had it...and Sony only had it because the N64 and it's cartridges.
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Last time I mentioned a PS3 price, I predicted $699. But the cheapest Blu-Ray player so far has a price tag of $1,200, and the most expensive by Pioneer is $1,800. How many jobs does Kutaragi want us to work.
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PS3 the most expensive system?! GOSH, WHAT A BIG FARKING SURPRISE. OHNOESOMGLOLOLOLOL. [/sarcasm]
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Did you really expect a PS3 to be anywhere near $1,000?
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Unless it's a Nintendo console, every console losses money.
So, it wouldn't be akward for Sony to lose $1,000 a console...heh...
Plus, I don't think they want us to work many jobs...since just by it's price tag, crappiness, and utter suckness....we'll be driven away not to buy it.
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Did you really expect a PS3 to be anywhere near $1,000?
Not entirely, but it doesn't surprise me.
I don't think we actually CARE enough about PS3 to worry about the real price...
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Funny part is, Nintendo's system'll be the cheapest, and they'll be the only ones making money. Hmm... Isn't this why Nintendo held back on releasing the GameBoy Advance, and did Color instead? Sony and Microsoft are retarded.
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Nintendo didn't expect Color to do so well. They held back the release of the Advance in Color's success' wake.
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God hates fanboys, but you all have a point.
360 looks shitty and PS3 allready looks fucked.
If Nintendo plays their cards right, Sony and Microsoft are going to die unless MGS4 saves Sony's ass.
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Never underestimate the power of people with mullets.
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Anything you can do, we can do lazier.
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God hates fanboys, but you all have a point.
There is no such thing as a Nintendo fanboy, those people are just smart.
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No, Nintendo fanboys are by far some of THE WORST fanboys out there.
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No, Nintendo fanboys are by far some of THE WORST fanboys out there.
Worse than FF fan boys?
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Yes. Most fannoys can be reasonable, but I've had so much harder a time arguing with Nintendo fanboys than Sony and Microsoft fanboys. Like this one friend I know, who used to hate Microsoft because they "stole" Rare. He now owns an Xbox 360 and Perfect Dark Zero and loves it, heh.
I always say Nintendo faboys are worse because, well, most of them are around the 10-13 range. And you know how ignnorant kids can be when it comes to video games.
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I'm not! *NUKED*
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No, Nintendo fanboys are by far some of THE WORST fanboys out there.
You've obviously never dealt with a full-brunt DOS fanboy attack! >=( and I have backup, even!
Sorta. Just this one guy....
I really hope Nintendo does well with the Revolution, since Microsoft can totally bomb on the X-Box 360 and not feel a thing, and Sony shoulda stopped with the PS2.
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Nintendo could technically bomb on the Revolution (God forbid) and not feel a thing either. They might recede within themselves for a year or two to rethink their strategy, but the company itself would be far from bankrupt.
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Nintendo could technically bomb on the Revolution (God forbid) and not feel a thing either.
If only the same could have held true with Sega.... Another console as awesome as the Genesis would have been absolute gold. [but in today's day and age? Not likely to have the same feel to it, in the least, unless it was like a pocket drive for portable Genesis-esque gaming. It'd be like the SNES and Genesis battle all over again with the DS and Pocketdrive! <3
or something.
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Yeah, but Sega completely bombed two consoles, and not because they were different ideas, but because they just did things wrong. If Nintendo somehow manages to not even sell one Revolution, they'll still be around hanks to thier handheld consoles.
Now, Nintendo faboys can be the worst, however, in the case of me and CJ, we just tell the facts like they are. Nintendo is better because it's more fun. Because it's games are something different, unlike Playstation and Xbox.
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and me
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Ah, sorry, Razel! How could I forget you? You know what things are like!
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Now, Nintendo faboys can be the worst, however, in the case of me and CJ, we just tell the facts like they are. Nintendo is better because it's more fun. Because it's games are something different, unlike Playstation and Xbox.
Then you're not a fanboy.
Fanboys never state facts, they never reason, they just talk about propaganda and opinionated bullshit.
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Sounds like some people from IRL that I know (not you, Razel)
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So you're saying, SY, that since I state facts on the superiority of DOS compared to consoles of the time, I'm not a DOS fanboy?
I feel almost insulted. >=(
*shot*
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More like a DOS leech.
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No, Swift, you are not a fanboy. A fanboy is different than a fan, mind you.
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But I won't even give other consoles a try.. willingly.
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So how the hell do you have more fun on a Nintendo system than you do on a system you've never even played?
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Exactly.
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Let me put it this way.
A fan is like sex cream, and a fanboy/girl is a like a genital wart.
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Now, Nintendo faboys can be the worst, however, in the case of me and CJ, we just tell the facts like they are. Nintendo is better because it's more fun. Because it's games are something different, unlike Playstation and Xbox.
Then you're not a fanboy.
Fanboys never state facts, they never reason, they just talk about propaganda and opinionated bullshit.
I guess that means me an' CJ aren't fanboys either...
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As to why DreamCast bombed... it's because of Peter Moore. Seeing as how he's bashing and insulting everything about Japan, I don't see why Microsoft even cares about making ground in Japan with the 360....
In my experience from the NGG board on GameFAQs, there are only four types of fanboys: pro-Sony, anti-Sony, pro-Microsoft, and anti-Microsoft. All four of them tend to like Nintendo products at some point at least, with the anti-Sony fanboys being the most likely people to favor Nintendo...
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As to why DreamCast bombed... it's because of Peter Moore. Seeing as how he's bashing and insulting everything about Japan, I don't see why Microsoft even cares about making ground in Japan with the 360...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the original Xbox not do so well in Japan also? I don't entirely remember offhand...
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Yes, Xbox in Japan did awful besides some series' like Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden.
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How much of the dreamcast was developed by microsoft?
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0%.
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Then why does the system say it uses windows ce right on the console?
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Don't know.
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Anyways, its hard to pin the downfall of something on any one cause.
It is more common now for games to be multiple systems. No matter what company takes the top for now, What should concern us now isn't what company is the top seller of systems, but rather, what they plan to do with what they have, and what and how other factors (in U.S.) developer's crap (that is to say EA) are going to influence the next generation of gamers.
As for me, I'm content with my genesis and my computer.
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It's obvious Peter Moore wasn't the only reason DreamCast tanked. And yes, DreamCast did run some form of Windows. And for everyone's information, Xbox original did MUCH better than Xbox 360 in Japan in the same time period. In the first three days after launch, I believe Xbox sold over 2x more consoles than 360 did in its first three days after launch.
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Yeah, but XBox came out when Japan was still getting used to DVD players, that's probably the only contributing factor to making it sell more.
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But if that was the only thing that seperated it from other counsels, what was stopping people from buying a backwards compatible system from a trusted company that could play dvd's to boot?(ps2?)
I think it has to do with where people's loyalties lied before the launches took place. I think that sega turned a lot of their supporters off in the time between the Dreamcast and the Saturn and Cd.
The games available and in development at launch also played a part in sales.