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General => General Games => Topic started by: neothe0ne on January 07, 2006, 07:36:15 pm

Title: The future of gaming
Post by: neothe0ne on January 07, 2006, 07:36:15 pm
-Blu-Ray players cost $1,200-$1,800+ (HD-DVD players cost $499-$799+)
-Sony's Blu-Ray player won't arrive until summer
-Dead or Alive 4 for XBOX 360 outsells all PSP titles in Japan
-GameCube still outselling Xbox 360 in Japan
-DS sells over 13 million worldwide since launch (DS can well overtake GC by the end of 2006, I say, which is kind of sad..)
-Japan seeing a real DS shortage (sales are crazy in Japan, hundreds of thousands every week)
-Take Two expects PS3 to launch in late 2006, lowers earnings expectations, delays 360 titles, will port GTA PSP to PS2 not even half a year after its release....
AND LAST BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST:
-Peter Moore is officially a jackass.  There shouldn't be any doubt as to why DreamCast tanked now, regardless of Sega's financial situation.  First Peter Moore says "Xbox 360 is a superior culture than Sony [PS2]" (in Japan), next Peter Moore says "Japanese recording is primitive" (in response to being confronted by 360's low sales).

I say Nintendo has the right picture, and Microsoft and Sony are losing it.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 07, 2006, 07:45:45 pm
FINALLY!  Someone shares my views about the gaming world in its' current state! *applauds Neo*
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Monkeydog on January 07, 2006, 07:49:51 pm
Microsoft never had it...and Sony only had it because the N64 and it's cartridges.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: neothe0ne on January 07, 2006, 07:54:13 pm
Last time I mentioned a PS3 price, I predicted $699.  But the cheapest Blu-Ray player so far has a price tag of $1,200, and the most expensive by Pioneer is $1,800.  How many jobs does Kutaragi want us to work.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 07, 2006, 07:55:18 pm
PS3 the most expensive system?!  GOSH, WHAT A BIG FARKING SURPRISE.  OHNOESOMGLOLOLOLOL. [/sarcasm]
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: neothe0ne on January 07, 2006, 07:57:00 pm
Did you really expect a PS3 to be anywhere near $1,000?
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Monkeydog on January 07, 2006, 07:58:23 pm
Unless it's a Nintendo console, every console losses money.

So, it wouldn't be akward for Sony to lose $1,000 a console...heh...

Plus, I don't think they want us to work many jobs...since just by it's price tag, crappiness, and utter suckness....we'll be driven away not to buy it.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 07, 2006, 08:01:32 pm
Quote from: "neothe0ne"
Did you really expect a PS3 to be anywhere near $1,000?

Not entirely, but it doesn't surprise me.

I don't think we actually CARE enough about PS3 to worry about the real price...
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 07, 2006, 08:28:00 pm
Funny part is, Nintendo's system'll be the cheapest, and they'll be the only ones making money. Hmm... Isn't this why Nintendo held back on releasing the GameBoy Advance, and did Color instead? Sony and Microsoft are retarded.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: neothe0ne on January 07, 2006, 09:55:59 pm
Nintendo didn't expect Color to do so well.  They held back the release of the Advance in Color's success' wake.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Yaminomalex on January 07, 2006, 11:58:15 pm
God hates fanboys, but you all have a point.

360 looks shitty and PS3 allready looks fucked.

If Nintendo plays their cards right, Sony and Microsoft are going to die unless MGS4 saves Sony's ass.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 08, 2006, 02:54:01 am
Never underestimate the power of people with mullets.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Calvat on January 08, 2006, 04:22:20 am
Anything you can do, we can do lazier.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Monkeydog on January 08, 2006, 08:44:36 am
Quote from: "Yaminomalex"
God hates fanboys, but you all have a point.

There is no such thing as a Nintendo fanboy, those people are just smart.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Superyoshi on January 08, 2006, 09:28:34 am
No, Nintendo fanboys are by far some of THE WORST fanboys out there.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Monkeydog on January 08, 2006, 09:53:13 am
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
No, Nintendo fanboys are by far some of THE WORST fanboys out there.

Worse than FF fan boys?
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Superyoshi on January 08, 2006, 10:37:20 am
Yes.  Most fannoys can be reasonable, but I've had so much harder a time arguing with Nintendo fanboys than Sony and Microsoft fanboys.  Like this one friend I know, who used to hate Microsoft because they "stole" Rare.  He now owns an Xbox 360 and Perfect Dark Zero and loves it, heh.

I always say Nintendo faboys are worse because, well, most of them are around the 10-13 range.  And you know how ignnorant kids can be when it comes to video games.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 08, 2006, 02:05:44 pm
I'm not! *NUKED*
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Swiftman on January 08, 2006, 05:42:10 pm
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
No, Nintendo fanboys are by far some of THE WORST fanboys out there.


You've obviously never dealt with a full-brunt DOS fanboy attack! >=( and I have backup, even!

Sorta. Just this one guy....





I really hope Nintendo does well with the Revolution, since Microsoft can totally bomb on the X-Box 360 and not feel a thing, and Sony shoulda stopped with the PS2.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 08, 2006, 05:56:36 pm
Nintendo could technically bomb on the Revolution (God forbid) and not feel a thing either.  They might recede within themselves for a year or two to rethink their strategy, but the company itself would be far from bankrupt.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Swiftman on January 08, 2006, 06:05:09 pm
Quote from: "CJMErl / Yami CJMErl"
Nintendo could technically bomb on the Revolution (God forbid) and not feel a thing either.


If only the same could have held true with Sega.... Another console as awesome as the Genesis would have been absolute gold. [but in today's day and age? Not likely to have the same feel to it, in the least, unless it was like a pocket drive for portable Genesis-esque gaming. It'd be like the SNES and Genesis battle all over again with the DS and Pocketdrive! <3

or something.

]
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 08, 2006, 08:33:56 pm
Yeah, but Sega completely bombed two consoles, and not because they were different ideas, but because they just did things wrong. If Nintendo somehow manages to not even sell one Revolution, they'll still be around hanks to thier handheld consoles.

Now, Nintendo faboys can be the worst, however, in the case of me and CJ, we just tell the facts like they are. Nintendo is better because it's more fun. Because it's games are something different, unlike Playstation and Xbox.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Razel on January 08, 2006, 08:35:32 pm
and me
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 08, 2006, 08:37:17 pm
Ah, sorry, Razel! How could I forget you? You know what things are like!
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Superyoshi on January 08, 2006, 08:58:08 pm
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Now, Nintendo faboys can be the worst, however, in the case of me and CJ, we just tell the facts like they are. Nintendo is better because it's more fun. Because it's games are something different, unlike Playstation and Xbox.

Then you're not a fanboy.

Fanboys never state facts, they never reason, they just talk about propaganda and opinionated bullshit.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Jehuty on January 08, 2006, 09:19:24 pm
Sounds like some people from IRL that I know (not you, Razel)
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Swiftman on January 08, 2006, 09:27:34 pm
So you're saying, SY, that since I state facts on the superiority of DOS compared to consoles of the time, I'm not a DOS fanboy?



I feel almost insulted. >=(

*shot*
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Yaminomalex on January 08, 2006, 09:28:14 pm
More like a DOS leech.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Superyoshi on January 08, 2006, 10:10:52 pm
No, Swift, you are not a fanboy.  A fanboy is different than a fan, mind you.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 08, 2006, 10:15:29 pm
But I won't even give other consoles a try.. willingly.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Superyoshi on January 08, 2006, 10:22:07 pm
So how the hell do you have more fun on a Nintendo system than you do on a system you've never even played?
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 08, 2006, 10:38:25 pm
Exactly.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Yaminomalex on January 08, 2006, 11:46:02 pm
Let me put it this way.

A fan is like sex cream, and a fanboy/girl is a like a genital wart.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 09, 2006, 09:35:50 am
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Now, Nintendo faboys can be the worst, however, in the case of me and CJ, we just tell the facts like they are. Nintendo is better because it's more fun. Because it's games are something different, unlike Playstation and Xbox.

Then you're not a fanboy.

Fanboys never state facts, they never reason, they just talk about propaganda and opinionated bullshit.

I guess that means me an' CJ aren't fanboys either...
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: neothe0ne on January 09, 2006, 03:10:49 pm
As to why DreamCast bombed... it's because of Peter Moore.  Seeing as how he's bashing and insulting everything about Japan, I don't see why Microsoft even cares about making ground in Japan with the 360....

In my experience from the NGG board on GameFAQs, there are only four types of fanboys:  pro-Sony, anti-Sony, pro-Microsoft, and anti-Microsoft.  All four of them tend to like Nintendo products at some point at least, with the anti-Sony fanboys being the most likely people to favor Nintendo...
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 09, 2006, 03:15:44 pm
Quote from: "neothe0ne"
As to why DreamCast bombed... it's because of Peter Moore.  Seeing as how he's bashing and insulting everything about Japan, I don't see why Microsoft even cares about making ground in Japan with the 360...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the original Xbox not do so well in Japan also?  I don't entirely remember offhand...
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Superyoshi on January 09, 2006, 03:22:17 pm
Yes, Xbox in Japan did awful besides some series' like Dead or Alive and Ninja Gaiden.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Laminate on January 09, 2006, 04:52:40 pm
How much of the dreamcast was developed by microsoft?
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 09, 2006, 04:54:59 pm
0%.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Laminate on January 09, 2006, 04:56:06 pm
Then why does the system say it uses windows ce right on the console?
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 09, 2006, 04:59:11 pm
Don't know.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Laminate on January 09, 2006, 05:17:22 pm
Anyways, its hard to pin the downfall of something on any one cause.
    It is more common now for games to be multiple systems. No matter what company takes the top for now, What should concern us now isn't what company is the top seller of systems, but rather, what they plan to do with what they have, and what  and how other factors (in U.S.)   developer's crap (that is to say EA) are going to influence the next generation of gamers.

As for me, I'm content with my genesis and my computer.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: neothe0ne on January 09, 2006, 06:35:56 pm
It's obvious Peter Moore wasn't the only reason DreamCast tanked.  And yes, DreamCast did run some form of Windows.  And for everyone's information, Xbox original did MUCH better than Xbox 360 in Japan in the same time period.  In the first three days after launch, I believe Xbox sold over 2x more consoles than 360 did in its first three days after launch.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on January 09, 2006, 06:43:55 pm
Yeah, but XBox came out when Japan was still getting used to DVD players, that's probably the only contributing factor to making it sell more.
Title: The future of gaming
Post by: Laminate on January 09, 2006, 08:18:50 pm
But if that was the only thing that seperated it from other counsels, what was stopping people from buying a backwards compatible system from a trusted company that could play dvd's to boot?(ps2?)

I think it has to do with where people's loyalties lied before the launches took place. I think that sega turned a lot of their supporters off in the time between the Dreamcast and the Saturn and Cd.

The games available and in development at launch also played a part in sales.