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General => General => Topic started by: the_broom on June 08, 2005, 11:56:52 am

Title: Something serious
Post by: the_broom on June 08, 2005, 11:56:52 am

Here on TPH, we're almost always making stupid, nonsensical posts and topics. Also, the forum has seen only two posts in the last day. (all thanks to Bladegash for that.)

So, how about, we try a debate topic. it's going to be on a questionable subject, one that has very varying views on it, so I must ask, please, do not start flaming people because they don't agree with you.
The topic for debate shall be....

Homosexuality! What you think of it, what experiences you've had on it, etc. Post what you think about it here.

Title: Something serious
Post by: protoman on June 08, 2005, 12:33:26 pm

didn't understand it until i got a gay friend. now i do. anyone who says it's a choice doesn't understand what it is, but unfortunately, until we have scientific proof of what it is, there will still be people who claim to understand what's going on in someone else's head.

and even when we do get proof ... well, just click here (http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm).

Title: Something serious
Post by: Sophih on June 08, 2005, 12:58:18 pm

One if my friends a boy who i will not name *coughJosH*cough*...well he dressed for a school dance in a shiny shirt and pink fish-neting let's just say we matched i asked him about being how he is, and he said he couldn't help how he was and he. He's liked guys sence 2d grade so it's (opinion)more DNA than enviroment.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Trigger on June 08, 2005, 05:26:34 pm

I have too many thoughts on the matter to explain my reasoning for them all...but I will try.

I think homosexuality is fine. Becuase it doesn't concern me anyways. Check out this one guy I know.

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Same sex marriage is a threat to the stability of society, and I can only hope that the values of San Fransicko do not spread accross the US.

He seems to think its a bad thing. Why?

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The United States of America was structured upon a Christian heritage. For better of for worse, it is an integral part of our culture that musn't be overlooked. To do so, would be to forsake the country's history and as such the country itself.

But, I strongly believe that ANYONE can do whatever the hell they want to. If religion says something is wrong, then I say forget about that religion.

To justify what I mean, I'll explain the best I can.

I have my rights just for being alive. It is government and our society that stops us. I can be gay, I can worship whoever the hell I want. I can say there is no god, I can go around saying "GAY PEOPLE SUCK!" and I can do all of that, and my government has nothing to do with it.. Nature overrules government. In nature I have every right imaginable, and even those not yet thought up. Government is what stops those rights, in order to do its job. And Ican be whatever I want, becuase its nature that decides what I can be, not government.

And to save time from someone saying:

 

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I can be gay.

Yes, and you can also rape your mother and kill your father. Does that make it right?

I will explain justification.

You can do something, but without reason to do so, it will be wrong. Murder, under the right circumstances can be acceptable. Such as assasinating a Tyrant to set a country free, which would be an extreme case though. The action, is murder, the justification, is freedom of a country. Thats how I keep myself in line. If I don't have an acceptable reason, I'm not going to do it.


If someone has a reason, then I don't care if their gay or not. But if someone has a stupid reason like "Religion says its bad" then they can go screw a cow. Becuase religion doesn't mean shit.

Thats all I can remember at the moment.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Sophih on June 08, 2005, 06:57:35 pm

Trigger that was deep(in a god way). I have seen a republican meeting over sumthing (i was forced to go) and they opened with a "Prayer"  what happened it seperation of church and gorverment the "prezident" even quoted god in his campain people on TV said they wanted a "przident" that had religon (stupid people very stupid) when this "same sex marrage" thing came out it sounded good it would give them rights that they could'ov the "prezident" said it was in the "bible" that only a mad and woman could get married. DID you know that god doesn't want people to be happy?(sarchatstic) but that doesn't stop people getting married by the state insted of the church and state. Giving them the same rights. doesn't that sound fair. BUT then again gurch [(gov+ chruch)which is worng] might say that's bad's. FUCK THEM!


i know this isn't nearly as deep as triggers but i tryed

Title: Something serious
Post by: Swiftman on June 08, 2005, 07:13:48 pm

Deepest thing I've seen from you, Sophih.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Sophih on June 08, 2005, 07:43:34 pm

hehe i just don,t think its right

Title: Something serious
Post by: Swiftman on June 08, 2005, 07:46:58 pm

The whole homo thing?

Title: Something serious
Post by: Trigger on June 08, 2005, 07:48:41 pm

I think she means the anti-samesex marrage thing.

ITS AN INJUSTICE!!! ARRRRGH!!! Those people deserve to BURN!

Title: Something serious
Post by: Swiftman on June 08, 2005, 07:50:26 pm

Who get's to burn? The people against anti-gay? You're all confusing me...

Title: Something serious
Post by: protoman on June 08, 2005, 08:51:07 pm

i think her post was pretty clearly anti organized religion, especially at a government level ("gurch") ... which would make it anti bush, pro individual choice.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Swiftman on June 08, 2005, 09:25:50 pm

OOOOOOoooooohhhhh.......... great. Thanks, Protoman.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Sophih on June 10, 2005, 07:08:32 pm

Is any one else brave enough, to speak their mind?

Title: Something serious
Post by: Superyoshi on June 10, 2005, 09:30:48 pm

Haha, we got off track one time in my math class and spent the whole block (Hour and a half) talking about this.  So here goes.

As most of you [hopefully] know, I am not homosexual.  You are what you are, you CANNOT change that.  I think your life kind of is lead by what things you experience as a child.  For example, my dad is  into classic rock from the 70s-early 90s and he listened to that type of music all the time.  So in turn, I am into the exact same type of music.  Then again, everyone is unique.  So how does one become "gay"?  Well, that's a mystery.  Nobody really knows.  I have no problems with homosexuality.  It's like being left-handed (which I am, but in an odd way, I use almost everything with my left except for the mouse, scissors, etc....but I'm getting sidetracked >.>) it's something you can't change.

I'd say more, but you get the main idea of it, heh.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Sophih on June 10, 2005, 09:37:14 pm

 Well i must dissagree, i think it is a genentic abnormally. i;m nothing like my father nor mother! ^,~

Title: Something serious
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on June 11, 2005, 07:05:49 pm

Well, I find nothing wrong with homosexuality, or the less extreme bisexuality. Now, the chicks at school who are bi just because everyone is doing it (http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12312001.shtml) are dumb (same with gay people with the same reasoning) but if you truely feel that way, more power to ya. Personally, I can't see why anyone would like men, we're flappy and lopsided, but I'm glad someone does.
As for Nature vs. Nurture, I still think this is split about 50/50, you can be born with weird hormones that make you choose the "unnatural" sexuality, but it could also be learned and picked up through your experiances (maybe you're straight, and in a relationship that ends badly, so you choose to move to the other side for a while and find you like it).
People should be allowed to do whatever they want, as long as it doesn't interfere with others. I don't want to see a gay parade, because parades block traffic, but I also don't want to see a ban on gay marrige, because that's a violation of rights.
Just have fun with your life, no matter how you choose the live it (unless it gets in my life's way, then stfu.)

Title: Something serious
Post by: protoman on June 11, 2005, 08:26:22 pm

that right there is why we shouldn't move to restrict what gay people can do: they are not in our (heterosexuals') way. until someone shows me scientific evidence that being gay is bad, they get no support from me.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Kary on June 15, 2005, 04:16:38 pm

Meh, I say let them be. I think that people should be allowed to do what they want, so long as it isn't a criminal action. Nothing wrong with loving something someone else doesn't.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Yaminomalex on August 09, 2006, 07:57:53 pm

HOW DID I MISS THIS?

NECROPOST

Swift, you are a strange, sad little man.

Also, Starline will unite the world.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Swiftman on August 10, 2006, 04:03:52 pm

I suppose if I explained my reasoning behind what I did, you wouldn't understand anyways.

Not to mention: Kicking the dead horse. YES LET'S DIG IT UP FROM THE GRAVE AND KICK THE REMAINS JUST A FEW MORE TIMES. SOUNDS LIKE FUN.

Title: Something serious
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on August 10, 2006, 05:37:39 pm

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Kicking the dead horse. YES LET'S DIG IT UP FROM THE GRAVE AND KICK THE REMAINS JUST A FEW MORE TIMES. SOUNDS LIKE FUN.

FINALLY, someone agrees with me!

*AXEMURDERED*

Title: Something serious
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on August 10, 2006, 06:32:07 pm

The horse deserves it. Stupid... death.

Title: Something serious
Post by: Jody on August 11, 2006, 05:33:44 pm

I SEE FAKE PEOPLE...

Title: Something serious
Post by: Superyoshi on August 11, 2006, 06:15:20 pm

Quote from: "Jody"

I SEE FAKE PEOPLE...

I SEE DEAD PEOPLE.

GET IT?  HEH?  HEH?  AMIRITE OR AMIRITE?

Title: Something serious
Post by: RetroJape on August 11, 2006, 10:00:22 pm

Quote from: "Superyoshi"

Quote from: "Jody"

I SEE FAKE PEOPLE...

I SEE DEAD PEOPLE.

GET IT?  HEH?  HEH?  AMIRITE OR AMIRITE?

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Title: Something serious
Post by: Superyoshi on August 11, 2006, 10:08:03 pm

THAT'S WHAT YOU GET, BOY!

Title: Something serious
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on August 11, 2006, 11:57:32 pm

Quote from: "RetroJape"

Quote from: "Superyoshi"

Quote from: "Jody"

I SEE FAKE PEOPLE...

I SEE DEAD PEOPLE.

GET IT?  HEH?  HEH?  AMIRITE OR AMIRITE?

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Title: Something serious
Post by: Herb on August 12, 2006, 12:32:05 am

Don't make me use a Jv2k forum buster on this shit bitches

Title: Something serious
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on August 12, 2006, 10:49:01 am

Quote from: "Herb"

Don't make me use a Jv2k forum buster on this shit bitches

Self destruct sequence.

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Title: Something serious
Post by: Swiftman on August 12, 2006, 03:50:10 pm

Wow, TPH withstood that? wow. Must be some place [or upgraded since we were last here]

Title: Something serious
Post by: Jody on August 12, 2006, 04:18:20 pm

Quote from: "Superyoshi"

Quote from: "Jody"

I SEE FAKE PEOPLE...

I SEE DEAD PEOPLE.

GET IT?  HEH?  HEH?  AMIRITE OR AMIRITE?

urrite oh lawd

Title: Something serious
Post by: Yaminomalex on August 13, 2006, 09:50:20 am

Couldn't help but rape the dead horse.

Felt like necroposting, felt like necrophilla.

Show me one (or in this case two) rules that forbid me from both.

Title: Something serious
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on August 13, 2006, 07:41:31 pm

Holy fark, people actually REMEMBER the ForumBuster?!

Title: Something serious
Post by: Herb on August 13, 2006, 07:48:23 pm

Yea man that thing was psycho insane

Title: Something serious
Post by: Yaminomalex on August 14, 2006, 01:19:13 am

Yes, Vince Vaughn was Norman Bates AKA The Psycho in the remake.