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TPH => Music => Topic started by: protoman on April 13, 2005, 12:00:20 am

Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: protoman on April 13, 2005, 12:00:20 am
against the current

So much music ... so little time!

Well, we'd better find some more, because this update's eight games in girth!

From yours truly are three Sonic games: Sonic R, Sonic 3D Blast (Saturn) and Sonic CD (English). Someone requested the (I feel) slightly inferior Spencer Nilsen Sonic CD business that reportedly held up the American release of the game for months, and I while I had my Sega games out I figured, why not throw in good ol' Spence, too?

Also from "the operator of four" in this update is the fantastic Panzer Dragoon II soundtrack. I actually had to record this one myself, unlike the Sonic games, which were simply ripped from the game discs. So, this one's even more special and enjoyable for me; I hope that it will be for y'all, as well!

Rounding out this whopping list are TimeSplitters, its sequel (called, appropriately enough, TimeSplitters 2), StarCraft and Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike, all compliments of TPH co-conspirator neothe0ne. Many of them were indeed recorded by him – and as I know all too well, that's no five-minute job!

Until next time ...
- Protoman
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Superyoshi on April 13, 2005, 08:44:26 am
Wow, updates are so frequent now, I don't know what to do with myself!  Thanks a lot, Protoman and Neothe0ne!  Seeing 3D Blast on here just gives me so much nostalgia because I haven't played that game since 1997 or so, mostly because when Saturn had died I was forced to sell it to buy an N64.  Man, was I a stupid kid back then.  I really want another Saturn now seeing Panzer Drogoon and Sonic R are here, heh.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on April 13, 2005, 10:40:07 am
STARCRAFT!? I've been looking for those for about 4+ years! And now it's here on this uber-site!? NICE! I must congradulate you, Protoman!

Also, a question. Is Panzer Dragoon like, mechs and stuff? Cuz in some translations of the Front Missions games have them called panzers instead of wanzers, as is the proper translation.
Needless to say, is Panzer Dragoon an RPG or something with mechs in it?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Superyoshi on April 13, 2005, 12:11:41 pm
Quote from: "Swiftman"
STARCRAFT!? I've been looking for those for about 4+ years! And now it's here on this uber-site!? NICE! I must congradulate you, Protoman!

Also, a question. Is Panzer Dragoon like, mechs and stuff? Cuz in some translations of the Front Missions games have them called panzers instead of wanzers, as is the proper translation.
Needless to say, is Panzer Dragoon an RPG or something with mechs in it?

Panzer Dragoon was an RPG for the Sega Saturn where basically you're riding on a flying dragon and shoot enemies, this might not be 100% right, I haven't played it in a LONG time.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on April 13, 2005, 04:37:07 pm
Err....

TimeSplitters: Future Perfect is actually the third game in the series, not the first.  And you might want to mark (GC) at the end of it to specify that it's the GC version, fixed up as best as possible, and not the perfect PS2/Xbox version...

*edit*
Oh, and StarCraft should have been a five minute job ;)  A simple MPQ extraction, then plug the waves into RazorLame, right?  Well.. I reformatted my second hard drive.  Turned out I lost my MPQ archiver ;)  Took a while to find the correct one again.. (Ladik's or something).  Everything else was lengthy line-in recordings.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: protoman on April 14, 2005, 12:43:03 pm
Quote from: "neothe0ne"
Err....

TimeSplitters: Future Perfect is actually the third game in the series, not the first.  And you might want to mark (GC) at the end of it to specify that it's the GC version, fixed up as best as possible, and not the perfect PS2/Xbox version...

this should be corrected now. thanks for notifying me.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Bass X on May 06, 2005, 03:25:22 pm
all we need now is some Megaman Zero music and Rockman EXE and this place will truely pwn more than it does now :D
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Sophih on May 06, 2005, 04:32:37 pm
 castlevania sotn would be very nice i'd get it off my brothers cd, but i would need to be talked through it ^_^;
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: the_broom on May 06, 2005, 09:50:49 pm
I'm still trying to learn xaex.exe program. It can rip playstation music straight from the disk, so I hear.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 07, 2005, 10:04:23 pm
I already posted this somewhere, but not all PlayStation games use XA audio.  XA is the streaming format for 99.9% of all PlayStation games, and they are actually 37.0KHz 16-bit 2-channel waves.

Many PlayStation games also use the PlayStation synth.  Final Fantasy VII is run ENTIRELY on synth.  There are no streamed songs.  Castlevania SotN has two synth/sequenced songs and the rest are streamed, and stuff like that...

If you find an entry for a game here, that means it is run partially or entirely on PS synth, which renders XA-ripping programs useless:
http://www.zophar.net/psf/
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 07, 2005, 10:06:58 pm
So I guess beating the game up to 200% and line-in recording the sound test fromt eh Master Librarian is the only way to get all the songs?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 07, 2005, 10:12:31 pm
Well, I haven't played Castlevania SotN, but if that's what you have to do...

Release the rip without the two sequenced songs ;)  I released my TS2 recording without one song (I wasn't aware that there were unused tracks in the game data like MMX5 did).  Of course, with TS2, I knew all the songs were streamed, and when I finally cracked the key to Free Radical's radical Xbox ADPCM, I got all the songs plus extra, directly extracted and thus better quality than my recording ;)

Of course, in the case of CSotN, we know two songs are sequenced...
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 07, 2005, 10:16:58 pm
Don't forget teh one secret song that plays when you put it in a CD player! I hope you can rip THAT!
(ps: If I had it still, I'd send you my SOTN save on my memory card and Sophih has the game. I always had to rent it.)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 07, 2005, 10:18:57 pm
If you can play a song in your CD player, then one song is CDDA.  BUT DON'T RIP IT WITH ITUNES!!!!  iTunes and other rippers fudge and flaw the original sound, and WAVE and ALAC rips are not truely lossless, and lossy rips are even worse.

Rip it with Exact Audio Copy here:
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 07, 2005, 10:20:24 pm
I always use Nero for practically all my CD needs.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 07, 2005, 10:21:41 pm
I'm not sure if Nero rips exact copies, but I occasionally use Nero for encoding files.  It's my only mp3PRO encoder, and Winamp always crashes on my computer now if I try to play any kind of song, even after reinstalling (this phantom menace happened to my friend and wouldn't stop for a long time, so I guess with a bit of time....)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 07, 2005, 10:24:35 pm
Is it winamp v.  5.09? I found v 5.09 to not be the best. I stick to my v. 5.04
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 07, 2005, 10:39:44 pm
Well, I find alternatives to Winamp now.. yeah, it's 5.09 Pro.

I use Foobar2000 for almost everything.  WMP for MIDI only.  Monkey's Audio frontend and dbPowerAmp for converting files.  iTunes for converting MIDIs to other formats.

I don't feel like fixing Winamp, so I'm improvising...
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 07, 2005, 11:26:13 pm
I like teh plugin system for Winamp mostly. I like to listen to PSF's and SPC's. (by the way, does anyone know where I can get a OMPLETE Castlevania, SOTN psf set? The one at Zophar.net and other places only has 2 tracks.)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 08, 2005, 10:00:58 am
I thought we covered that....

The PSF is an emulation format.  The PSF input plugin emulates the PlayStation synth, and the PSF files contain the instrument data.  Therefore, PSFs can only be made from sequenced songs, not streaming songs.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 09, 2005, 11:10:18 am
No, No. I only want the SOTN PSF library for my own reasons. I only want to listent o them, maybe convert to mp3 with that trick you showed me, then put the best songs on a CD for my own purposes.

Still, does anyone have a clue of where to find it? Or, heck, how do you make PSF's?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Sophih on May 09, 2005, 02:04:46 pm
 well anyways i still would love bloody roar music of S.O.T.N i have to CDs (P.S. check the comix thing in this fourm
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 09, 2005, 03:34:05 pm
The point I was trying to make was that there are only two sequenced songs in Castlevania: SotN.  The rest of the music is all streamed, and can be ripped by any XA ripper.

Therefore, the two-song PSF set is the complete PSF set.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 09, 2005, 05:19:30 pm
Oh... Crap. So, those two psf songs are the only ones that'll ever be in psf format? That sucks. Oh, well. All the better when it comes here. (if it does)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Superyoshi on May 10, 2005, 05:20:09 pm
Quote from: "Sophih"
well anyways i still would love bloody roar music of S.O.T.N i have to CDs (P.S. check the comix thing in this fourm

You'll need a Fileplanet account, but you can download the SotN OST right here http://www.classicgaming.com/castlevania/cd/nitm-cd.htm
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Lacus on May 10, 2005, 05:42:11 pm
Wow! I've been wanting that music for a long time! Thanks, Superyoshi!
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 10, 2005, 05:43:42 pm
Yeah, ClassicGaming is where I got the Dracula Battle Perfect CD that I'd uploaded here.  (But I never tried to steal credit!! ;)  look here http://www.protoman.com/neothe0ne/info.txt)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 10, 2005, 06:17:08 pm
wOOt! I have a  fileplanet account! Yay!
Does the OST lack a couple songs, or is it one of those big 2-cd ones?
And Lacus, you can use my Fileplanet account. I'll PM you my password.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Lacus on May 10, 2005, 06:35:51 pm
What if I want to make my own fileplanet account?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 10, 2005, 06:48:01 pm
Well, if you want... I can't stop you.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Lacus on May 10, 2005, 07:14:27 pm
Huh? How come when it's 99% done, it says "Could not establich connection with the server". What is this about? It happens on every song I've tried.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 10, 2005, 09:28:19 pm
What download speed do you have?  (aka, how long had you been downloading?)

You can always copy the link into a download manager like FlashGet and then download.  Remember that the link changes after a period of time though (after you finish dl/ing).
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Lacus on May 10, 2005, 10:35:23 pm
Um, I have 56k dial-up. I don't have flashget or nothing. I just use internet exporer.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 10, 2005, 10:37:56 pm
There's the problem(s).

-Dial-up modem
-No download manager
-Internet Explorer

Change those to...
-Broadband
-FlashGet or a similar download manager
-Mozilla Firefox or a similar Netscape-superior-port
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Lacus on May 10, 2005, 10:47:33 pm
Quote from: "neothe0ne"
There's the problem(s).

-Dial-up modem
-No download manager
-Internet Explorer

Change those to...
-Broadband
-FlashGet or a similar download manager
-Mozilla Firefox or a similar Netscape-superior-port


Most of those I can't change. I could probably get flashget, but I can't get broadband since I live 8 km out of town, and you can't get a high-speed connection there unless you want to pay $70 a month for satelite.
And I can't get Firefox, since it's a family computer and my parents don't like it when I use the computer too much. They always want me to focus on my studies. I can't blame them. I'm supposed to be in grade 9, but i'm in grade 11 instead. I can see why they want me to do well.
Maybe I'll just use Swiftman's computer instead and then burn them to cd. His computer is still dial-up, but he has it tweaked as much as he can. (he pays extra to have a dial-up accelerator with his subscription.)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 10, 2005, 11:06:25 pm
Well, definitely switch to Mozilla Firefox.  Internet Explorer is getting in the WAY of your studies, I garauntee you ;)  (err, to your parents, too).  Firefox is much better.

http://www.mozilla.org/
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Lacus on May 10, 2005, 11:42:02 pm
Umm, how will firefox help? What diference is there in it to internet explorer?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Herb on May 11, 2005, 03:52:32 pm
once you get used to it, firefox is much smoother and versatile, it allows tabbed internet windows and advanced pop-up blocking
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Superyoshi on May 11, 2005, 05:03:13 pm
Quote from: "Herb"
once you get used to it, firefox is much smoother and versatile, it allows tabbed internet windows and advanced pop-up blocking

Plus, if you tweak it right.  It can go 30x faster ;)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Sophih on May 11, 2005, 05:27:18 pm
and, how does one Tweak???
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on May 11, 2005, 06:36:52 pm
Man, I should get firefox. I'm tired of IE and netscape.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Bladegash on May 12, 2005, 09:47:50 am
Can you make the mouse wheel-click scrolling as fast as IE's in FireFox?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Herb on May 12, 2005, 01:46:47 pm
probably, i dont see why not, mine scrolls the same speed
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 12, 2005, 04:44:18 pm
IE scrolling is BAD.  It's smoothed out, which means that if you scroll fast it messes up.  Firefox scrolls immediately and doesn't have problems like that (although twice my bookmarks were mysteriously erased after two improper shutdowns..)
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Bladegash on May 14, 2005, 09:27:35 pm
Okay... I just tried installing Firefox again to see how the current build's doing, but when I start it up, it stays frozen on a white screen with the File Edit View etc. toolbar getting drawn, but nonfunctional. I just remembered it has happened the last few times I installed it too. Any ideas?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 14, 2005, 09:29:51 pm
Err.. it's always worked fine for me...

Maybe you should try uninstalling, then deleting the folder, cleaning the registry of "Mozilla" and/or "Firefox", then install again..
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: protoman on May 15, 2005, 06:49:20 pm
also check for any microsoft service packs called "disable that satan browser, firefox. for great justice !"
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on May 15, 2005, 07:04:31 pm
Oh, and I got Winamp 5 to start working again!!! :)

I figured it out:  somehow, during my "normal use" of Winamp 5, files or registry keys were corrupted.  I uninstalled Winamp 5, then installed Winamp 2.95 in the same folder.  When I opened Winamp 2, it gave an end task message without showing anything.  I uninstalled Winamp 2, which deleted the entire folder.  Then I installed Winamp 5.09, and everything works like a charm again. :)

So try the same method with Firefox..
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Bladegash on May 15, 2005, 07:24:45 pm
Edit again: Oops, missed a directory that needed to be deleted. Looks like it works fine now.
Title: WHUT GIVES?!
Post by: Anonymous on July 03, 2005, 02:02:55 am
ALL MUSIC FILES ARE IN TORRENT AND I CAN'T LISTEN TO THEM ANYMORE WHAT GIVES!
Title: Re: WHUT GIVES?!
Post by: Trigger on July 03, 2005, 03:29:46 am
Quote from: "Anonymous"
ALL MUSIC FILES ARE IN TORRENT AND I CAN'T LISTEN TO THEM ANYMORE WHAT GIVES!


Instead of being idiotic, take a look at the update at the top of this page....
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on July 03, 2005, 09:18:08 am
ROFL.....

Protoman, I think you need to write a big important notice involving how direct links of MP3s should be used  ^_^
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Anonymous on January 20, 2006, 04:30:30 pm
I'm getting so tired of this site sometimes....
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 20, 2006, 05:24:30 pm
I'm getting so tired of your damned SPAM, but you don't hear me an' CJ complaining! :x
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: neothe0ne on January 20, 2006, 06:00:59 pm
What was the point of a bump to an oldass topic, and using a crpytic comment as well?
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 20, 2006, 06:37:35 pm
Just another reason why Guests are (generally) not to be trusted.
Title: UPDATE [2005.04.13]
Post by: Swiftman on January 20, 2006, 09:27:02 pm
Unless their name is Swifto, then they're awesome. *shot*