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Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 12:41:00 pm
Games just aren't my thing anymore.

Either they've gotten more boring, or I've just grown out of them over the last 100 years.

Does anyone agree?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 07, 2005, 12:45:26 pm
no.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Kasai Falconi on December 07, 2005, 12:46:20 pm
The newer games are not as fun as older games. But I do play less games then I used to.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 12:48:46 pm
Atleast it's just not me.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 07, 2005, 12:48:56 pm
I have played games since I was old enough to hold a controller, and there ain't no stoppin' me now!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 12:51:22 pm
I played games since they weren't invented.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Yaminomalex on December 07, 2005, 02:46:16 pm
Playing games hasn't felt the same for me recently. =/
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Post by: Peaches on December 07, 2005, 02:49:06 pm
I've still got plenty of stuff to play.

Bangai-O just came in the mail.  >_>  Oh yeah...
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Post by: Swifto on December 07, 2005, 03:32:14 pm
I thought I was feeling the same thing, but then the one worry that was stopping me from playing them was alleviated, and now I'm fully enjoying good ol' DOS games. Doom, Blood, Quake, Commander Keen, Bio Menace, Master of Orion, One Must Fall, Civalization...... I've been using a keyboard FAR before a controller, and the keyboard shall forever remain my main method of controlling. Never will it stop. Mouse + Keyboard = Any genre of game masterfully controlled, expeccially with practice. FPS's are infinently easier with a mouse than some stick.

As a note, play Doom. Even the shareware version is long enough to more than occupy you for a few days, and it works near perfectly on win XP. [just make sure to set the music card setting to general midi, sound blaster music suxxorz on win XP for DOS.]

www.dosgames.com has shareware of Doom free download.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Swiftman/doom.jpg)

You can't tell me that's not awesome.

http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=music&game=Doom

And that's for the music of the game.

I don't know why, but with that one fear I had gone, I'm absolutely loving these kinds of games. Running around with a gun [or chainsaw. YEE HAW!] blasting zombies around and into pieces, it's such great fun....
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Superyoshi on December 07, 2005, 04:32:52 pm
Fun fact: Almost all the music from Doom is inspired by heavy metal songs by Metallica, Pantera and the like.  I heard one of the creators was a former lawyer, so he knew exactly how much of the song he could put into the game without being sued.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 05:36:45 pm
Doom is very un progressed.

Pixels everywhere, annoying sounds, silly game play.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Superyoshi on December 07, 2005, 05:45:25 pm
What do you expect from an FPS made in 1993?

If you don't like this, you certainly won't like Wolfenstein 3D....
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 06:30:25 pm
I don't like anything.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Superyoshi on December 07, 2005, 06:51:19 pm
Apparently so.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Nightmare X on December 07, 2005, 07:41:21 pm
Stop being so emo.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 08:55:20 pm
Actually I wasn't emo at the time.

I basiccly hate alot of things, so I say everything.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Kasai Falconi on December 07, 2005, 09:08:10 pm
wait wait wait.....NMX...Says Calvat is emo for saying the same thing he himself says? So its ok for NMX to say it but not Cal?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 07, 2005, 09:30:20 pm
I can't believe I didn't think of that.

But I feel like a wuss for someone else to relise that. x.X
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Nightmare X on December 07, 2005, 10:03:50 pm
Oh, but there's things I like, such as say, Pantera, myself, fire, assasination, FF6, Kefka, people on fire, ruining christmas, Doritos, TFC, Illuminati, Mechs, 8-bit theater, Pokey the penguin, Maddox, punching people in the face, etc.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Vanguard on December 07, 2005, 11:06:39 pm
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
If you don't like this, you certainly won't like Wolfenstein 3D....


Wolfenstein 3D was awesome though..... How could he not like it?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Herb on December 07, 2005, 11:44:03 pm
I dont believe NMX has ever said he hates everything, but he has said he hates everybody.

now i bet someone will go through the archives to prove me wrong that he never said he hates everybody

and now, a megakevin moment :o  :twisted:  :twisted:  :P  :)  :D  :wink:  :roll:  :o  :evil:  :evil:  :twisted:  :x
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 08, 2005, 12:08:12 am
It's always been my dream to save christmas from the hands of evil. Listen well, Nightmare X. From this month, untill the end of this month, do not turn your back on Lazlo J. Falconi.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 02:54:01 am
Quote from: "Nightmare X"
Oh, but there's things I like, such as say, Pantera, myself, fire, assasination, FF6, Kefka, people on fire, ruining christmas, Doritos, TFC, Illuminati, Mechs, 8-bit theater, Pokey the penguin, Maddox, punching people in the face, etc.


I like just about that much as you mentioned!
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Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 08, 2005, 02:59:04 am
The Illuminati is the name of many groups, modern and historical, real and fictitious, verified and alleged. Most commonly, however, The Illuminati refers specifically to the Bavarian Illuminati, the least secret of all secret societies in the world, and thus, the lamest.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 03:38:33 am
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>
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Post by: Nightmare X on December 08, 2005, 07:03:21 am
Fool, the Conspiracy theory Illuminati is just something a random dumbass made up using our name.


The real Illuminati doesn't attempt to be secret, we go around torching countries for the hell of it with the subtly and stealth of a charging ox blowing a fog horn.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 07:10:32 am
>.>;;;
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Post by: Swifto on December 08, 2005, 08:18:46 am
Gotta love the raging lunatics.

because if you don't they'll come to your house and smash your gas line then cast Fire3 on it.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 09:18:02 am
FIRE 9!!!
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Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 08, 2005, 11:35:38 am
NUKE!!!
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Post by: Yaminomalex on December 08, 2005, 11:36:24 am
Wind Tunnel!
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Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 08, 2005, 12:00:12 pm
Quote from: "Calvat 69"
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>

You need to get banned.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 12:16:30 pm
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Quote from: "Calvat 69"
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>

You need to get banned.


;_;
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 08, 2005, 12:27:40 pm
Endtype needed to be banned.

Calvat just needs an attitude adjustment.  *breaks out laser torch*

Now hold still, this won't hurt a bit, I swear.  I've never heard any complaints before...

...of course, I've never had any survivors before either, but still.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 12:29:47 pm
Quote from: "Byte Man"
Endtype needed to be banned.

Calvat just needs an attitude adjustment.  *breaks out laser torch*

Now hold still, this won't hurt a bit, I swear.  I've never heard any complaints before...

...of course, I've never had any survivors before either, but still.


This is why I'm emo, everyone kicking me around!
And burning me.
And etc.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 08, 2005, 12:31:07 pm
But I'm trying to help you!  Now just lie back and let good ol' Dr. Byte handle his buisness.

...is it safe?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Nightmare X on December 08, 2005, 12:33:24 pm
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Quote from: "Calvat 69"
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>

You need to get banned.


You need to shut up.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 08, 2005, 12:36:51 pm
Quote from: "Nightmare X"
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Quote from: "Calvat 69"
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>

You need to get banned.


You need to shut up.


You need to lighten up.  *Activates Bright Flash*

AH, there we go!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Nightmare X on December 08, 2005, 12:38:57 pm
Quote from: "Byte Man"
Quote from: "Nightmare X"
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Quote from: "Calvat 69"
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>

You need to get banned.


You need to shut up.


You need to lighten up.  *Activates Bright Flash*

AH, there we go!


You need to BURN.

BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN[/color][/b]
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 08, 2005, 12:43:38 pm
Try again.  I'm immune to burning.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: NeoCalculus on December 08, 2005, 12:46:21 pm
Quote from: "Nightmare X"
Quote from: "Byte Man"
Quote from: "Nightmare X"
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Quote from: "Calvat 69"
I'm not aloud to mouth of about Illuminati or I get banned from ToE.

<Insert smart ass comment here>

You need to get banned.


You need to shut up.


You need to lighten up.  *Activates Bright Flash*

AH, there we go!


You need to BURN.

BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN[/color][/b]


Iori says...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v667/skull_manx/ioriavatar.png):  You will all BURN!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 08, 2005, 12:51:05 pm
See my above post.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Superyoshi on December 08, 2005, 02:08:38 pm
Quote from: "Vanguard"
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
If you don't like this, you certainly won't like Wolfenstein 3D....


Wolfenstein 3D was awesome though..... How could he not like it?

He hates Doom, which is more or less the same engine with less features, so why would he like Wolfenstein 3D?

Also, don't take it the wrong way.  I love Wolfenstein 3D.  It was the first FPS I ever played, and it still holds up to this day if you ask me.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 05:15:37 pm
Quote from: "Byte Man"
Try again.  I'm immune to burning.


One with ye.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 08, 2005, 08:57:31 pm
Dear Nightmare X: Grow a penis.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 08, 2005, 09:20:32 pm
Please, don't say that to me...
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on December 09, 2005, 08:47:13 am
Quote from: "Lazlo Falconi"
Dear ***NIGHTMARE X***: Grow a penis.

CJMErl: The defense rests.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 09, 2005, 09:26:23 am
Who gives a damn if who's burning or not, as long as the people suffer cruel deaths.
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Post by: Peaches on December 09, 2005, 02:50:38 pm
Play Bangai-O

EVERYTHING blows up in a awesome display of awesomeness.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 09, 2005, 02:55:40 pm
FIREWORKS!
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Post by: Monkeydog on December 10, 2005, 12:57:52 am
Yep, they suck. The PS2 has one or two gems, the Xbox has one or two gems(which is really, all on the PC anyways), and the GCN has one or two gems...other than that...utter crap compared to the SNES and Gens days...
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 10, 2005, 04:33:36 am
I happen to know GCN has at least more than 2 gems.
Animal Crossing
Super Smash Brothers Melee
Star Fox Adventures (I don't care who says anything bad about this game)
F-Zero GX
Star Fox: Assault
Mega Man Network Transmission
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 10, 2005, 06:00:58 am
Starfox adventures was awesome.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on December 11, 2005, 02:10:20 pm
CJMErl: I didn't know you liked MegaMan Network Transmission, Laz...
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 11, 2005, 03:13:28 pm
I only got it recently. But it has elements from the older Mega Man games, as well as th ebattle chips form EXE. It's the best of both worlds.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Yaminomalex on December 11, 2005, 03:14:25 pm
Star Fox: Assault ?

O_o
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 11, 2005, 03:15:04 pm
Yeah, you got a problem with that?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Swiftman on December 11, 2005, 06:05:35 pm
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
Quote from: "Vanguard"
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
If you don't like this, you certainly won't like Wolfenstein 3D....


Wolfenstein 3D was awesome though..... How could he not like it?

He hates Doom, which is more or less the same engine with less features, so why would he like Wolfenstein 3D?

Also, don't take it the wrong way.  I love Wolfenstein 3D.  It was the first FPS I ever played, and it still holds up to this day if you ask me.


Catacomb Abyss owns Wolfenstein. It's older, better decorated [it's not the same damn level over and over and over aain, it has LOTS of variety as the levels progress, more variety of weapons {well, the main weapon in the same, but there's no limit to ammo, and the Spread shot kicks ass] The only thing one person could see wrong with Catacomb Abyss over Wolfenstein is the fact that Catacomb is EGA and Wolfenstein is VGA graphics.

Catacomb Abyss kicks total ass. Better than Wolfenstein by far, if you ask me. [but Blood and Strife hold the crown for best FPS's for me]
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Lazlo Falconi on December 11, 2005, 06:45:36 pm
YEs! I loved the Cactacomb Abyss! That is one of my (and my dad's) favorite video games!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 11, 2005, 07:25:32 pm
Ps2 has: Armored Core 2
Armored Core 2 AA
Armored Core SE
Armored Core 3
Armored Core Nexus
Armored Core Nine Breaker
and soon, Armored Core The Last Raven
and Swift, Project FORCE is being Renamed Armored Core 4 for the Ps3

I can name a few more games for the GCN
LoZ WW
LoZ FSA
LoZ MQ
LoZ Collection
MarioKart DD
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
Metriod Prime
Metriod Prime2
Paper Mario 2 TTYD
and I'm probally missing some too
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Post by: Negi-Kun on December 11, 2005, 07:55:13 pm
Quote
Ps2 has: Armored Core 2
Armored Core 2 AA
Armored Core SE
Armored Core 3
Armored Core Nexus
Armored Core Nine Breaker
and soon, Armored Core The Last Raven
and Swift, Project FORCE is being Renamed Armored Core 4 for the Ps3

I can name a few more games for the GCN
LoZ WW
LoZ FSA
LoZ MQ
LoZ Collection
MarioKart DD
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
Metriod Prime
Metriod Prime2
Paper Mario 2 TTYD

Armored Core is lacking. A good PS2 game would be ICO or Disgaea or something.
Lugi's Mansion sucked, Sunshine was lack luster, Prime isn't as good as others in the Series. Four Swords was quick and simple, and all the others, cept WW, are ports.

Lazlo's list, everything but Super Smash, AC, and F-Zero is still boring, not as good as other games you can get.
*runs away*
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: BlazeHeatnix on December 11, 2005, 08:20:19 pm
Good PS2 game would Be Megaman X & Pals & Soul Caliburs & CastleVania Lement Of Innosence & CURSE OF Darkness that is made by Isaac & Dracula.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Negi-Kun on December 11, 2005, 10:10:43 pm
Quote from: "BlazeHeatnix"
Good PS2 game would Be Megaman X & Pals & Soul Caliburs & CastleVania Lement Of Innosence & CURSE OF Darkness that is made by Isaac & Dracula.

We already know you have a bad taste in games, no need to remind us.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Yaminomalex on December 11, 2005, 10:39:58 pm
Quote from: "BlazeHeatnix"
Good PS2 game would Be Megaman X & Pals & Soul Caliburs & CastleVania Lement Of Innosence & CURSE OF Darkness that is made by Isaac & Dracula.


ror
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 12, 2005, 06:12:21 pm
Quote from: "Negi-Kun"
Quote
Ps2 has: Armored Core 2
Armored Core 2 AA
Armored Core SE
Armored Core 3
Armored Core Nexus
Armored Core Nine Breaker
and soon, Armored Core The Last Raven
and Swift, Project FORCE is being Renamed Armored Core 4 for the Ps3

I can name a few more games for the GCN
LoZ WW
LoZ FSA
LoZ MQ
LoZ Collection
MarioKart DD
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
Metriod Prime
Metriod Prime2
Paper Mario 2 TTYD

Armored Core is lacking. A good PS2 game would be ICO or Disgaea or something.
Lugi's Mansion sucked, Sunshine was lack luster, Prime isn't as good as others in the Series. Four Swords was quick and simple, and all the others, cept WW, are ports.

Lazlo's list, everything but Super Smash, AC, and F-Zero is still boring, not as good as other games you can get.
*runs away*


you obviously dont like change, well,  change can be good. those games were fun, Luigis Mansion may have not had much replay value, but it was something different, SM SS was a great game, odd, but great, Prime was different, all these titles (cept Zelda) were different from the original formula, so, originality is a bad thing?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Negi-Kun on December 12, 2005, 08:21:04 pm
Not at all. But no reason to release an inferior game just "because".
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 12, 2005, 08:28:01 pm
One elitest's "inferior" is another man's "awesome", Monkey.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 12, 2005, 09:01:35 pm
Quote from: "Byte Man"
One elitest's "inferior" is another man's "awesome", Monkey.


thank you
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 12, 2005, 09:12:26 pm
Quote from: "Razel"
Quote from: "Byte Man"
One elitest's "inferior" is another man's "awesome", Monkey.


thank you


This also applies to the PSP, you realize.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 12, 2005, 09:13:47 pm
i know
But, inlike some poeple, i respect others opinions, only rare lapses in my attention span make me break that
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 12, 2005, 09:15:54 pm
I like to try before I formulate opinions.

With the exception of FFVII, that I felt gipped just by LOOKING at it!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 12, 2005, 09:17:47 pm
Quote from: "Byte Man"
I like to try before I formulate opinions.

With the exception of FFVII, that I felt gipped just by LOOKING at it!


true, too true
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 13, 2005, 06:58:07 am
Quote from: "Razel"
i know
But, inlike some poeple, i respect others opinions, only rare lapses in my attention span make me break that


Everyone has different oppinions on things.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 13, 2005, 08:13:29 am
*Bytes tongue to hold back typo flame*

FFVII wasn't fantasy.  It was set in a techno-world.  It should've been named "Final Tech1."  It SUCKED GOAT BALLS!
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Post by: Nightmare X on December 13, 2005, 08:40:55 am
^Neither was FFVIII

The only Final Fantasy game worth playing on a Sony console is FFIX.

That game rocks, but I still consider FFVI as my favorite.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 13, 2005, 12:18:14 pm
FFIII fr0 th3 w1n!!!!11!!!
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Post by: Peaches on December 13, 2005, 02:25:50 pm
Metroid Prime is one of the best in the series. . .

It's right next to Super Metroid, it's an incredibly immersive game that successfully made a side scroller into a first person adventure game with guns (not a first person shooter), it was a damn fine game and I liked it from beginning to end.

Metroid Fusion is probably the worst.
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Post by: Yaminomalex on December 13, 2005, 02:52:26 pm
Nah,  Metroid 2 was even more horrible than that game.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 13, 2005, 03:11:16 pm
To tell the truth, I haven't met a Metroid I didn't like, but I agree that Metroid was the one I liked least.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 13, 2005, 03:13:56 pm
I thought Byte was offline...
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 13, 2005, 03:36:31 pm
...came back for a couple of min.  What?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 13, 2005, 06:06:17 pm
No metriod is bad. Kinda like Zelda,  excpet those CD-i ones and i wont ever willingly mention those *shudders*
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on December 14, 2005, 08:39:42 am
XD Yeah, even Nintendo themselves admitted that they sucked...
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on December 14, 2005, 09:54:45 am
I like nintendo.
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Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on December 14, 2005, 10:08:59 am
I was talking about the Zelda CD-i games, smart guy.  I'm a major Nintendo fanboy myself.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Razel on December 14, 2005, 06:25:52 pm
Nintendo fanboy also, but please, let us speak of the CD-i no more, it burns just thinmking about this vile piece of crap.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on December 14, 2005, 06:34:36 pm
Agreed.
Title: Requirments
Post by: Andrew6785 on January 03, 2006, 03:22:02 am
Quote from: "Byte Man"
The newer games are not as fun as older games.

 What do i need to get this to work?  :wink:
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Swiftman on January 03, 2006, 02:47:15 pm
WHAT YOU SAY?
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on January 04, 2006, 08:48:46 am
Andrew is gunning for Calvat's title of King of Random Crap by using spam.  That's all.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 04, 2006, 09:43:24 am
I concur.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Swiftman on January 04, 2006, 11:18:39 am
Quote from: "Byte Man"
Andrew is gunning for Calvat's title of King of Random Crap by using spam.  That's all.


G'luck trying.

He wasn't made the king for nothing.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Bladegash on January 04, 2006, 02:21:46 pm
It looks like it's time to defend your throne.
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Byte Man Zero on January 05, 2006, 09:30:29 am
And I must assist, since I was the one who was instrumental in Cal's ascention to the throne!

ONWARD!  TO BATTLE!!!!!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 05, 2006, 09:50:03 am
Woohoo! *preps Yami Buster* SENSELESS VIOLENCE AHOY!!!
Title: Is it me or...
Post by: Calvat on January 05, 2006, 10:35:25 am
Cheese is sometimes prosessed.