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General => General Games => Topic started by: neothe0ne on June 09, 2005, 05:31:08 pm
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Halo and Halo 2 got amazing review scores for a game that fell under the radar. Halo and Halo 2 is almost as underrated as Ninja Gaiden. I can't believe most of you guys fail to see the beauty of Halo and Halo 2. They brought more innovation to the FPS genre than any other game. Dual wielding is one of those marvelous feats, now I know other games have done that before, but they really perfected it with Halo 2.
Halo 1 also made vehicles fun in a FPS. Master Chief is the most original character I have ever seen. I got goose-bumps when he said "give me a weapon" in Halo 2.
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Halo and Halo 2 got amazing review scores for a game that was overrated. Halo and Halo 2 brought noinnovation to the FPS genre besides having aiming reticules the size of Jupiter for machine guns. Dual wielding is far from perfected in Halo 2. Master Chief is the most unoriginal character in the history of the entire universe.
I mean, I have yet for someone to prove me wrong: Master Chief is really a girl with a deep voice.
Discuss :)[/i]
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Dual wielding? Ha! Unreal Tournament did that with the twin Enforcers before Halo came out. (personally, I thought Unreal Tournament brought more originality than Halo did. (What was the previous big FPS before Unreal/unreal tournament? Oh? Is it Doom? I think so! [though I don't know.])
Heck, Descent has way more originality than Halo. WAY more. Not only for being the first GOOD 3D game (I was wrong about it being the very first, Elite came out before 1990 and ti's fully 3D)
But, enough of my rampaging rememincing fantasies.
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I don't like any FPS's besides Perfect Dark and Goldeneye. Timesplitters was allright, although I only played TS 2. I have Halo, it's....ok. Yes, it is VERY, VERY overrated. It's not HORRIBLE, it just ain't good, XD.
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I highly recommend you play TimeSplitters: Future Perfect. The story mode kicks ass at the very least.
Also, TSFP music rules :)
http://www.protoman.com/neothe0ne/-0-%20My%20Rips/TimeSplitters%20Future%20Perfect%20(GC%20Ogg%20Vorbis%20copy)/
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Halo is overrated, this is true. I got bored with it in less then an hour for Halo1, and Halo 2 kept my interest for only alittle longer then that.
It was too damn boring. It wasn't innovative, it was no were NEAR perfect.
It's just plain overrated.
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Yeah, I much preferred Unreal Tournament. (mainly because I really prefer a mouse for an FPS that an analog stick.)
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Story Time!!!
4th grade cristmass morning (i got clothes) well after that where were 3 "no-name" boxs my all three of us (myself, trevor, chris) opened them. They were [1] laptop [2] playstation [3] N64. Trevor nearly shouted i got laptop grabed it and ran into his room. chris grabed the n64 and walked off i got the playstation. I didn't even open it till later that year. still to this date i have 3 games i rented the other AC M.O.A, Bloody roar2-1 double pack, and Which trials i now have a ps2 the biggest TV in the house. Trev has an Xbox and chis ironicly has an Game. I have some about 550$ in video games but i let trevor buy my games. Some of them suck, but i loved kingdom hearts but havn't beeten it.
Well anyways on halo2 "killzone" is much more fun music, action, People in every way it's better and the guns look cooler. So i might hate halo because i'm playstation or MAYBE BECAUSE HE HAS SOME STRANGE NEED TO TURN UP THE MIC, and halo is full of imature people that seem to have to prove them selfs when the ranks. MY bro's friends and him get into fight over this game. Ask your self what makes them argue with eachother, and people they don't know? Halo to me is a kids game played by people that act their shoe size? Aliens psh aliens suck. policical party uprising after them being almost killed but them they adapted, is just so much cooler
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Another thing about good ol' dos FPS's. No bratty kids bragging about their skillorz.
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It's so nice when...
-You can't bunny hop
-You can't hear little kids cussing in high-pitched voices, pretending to be mature
-The focus is on shooting, not vehicle wars
That's what a real FPS should be... and thus, Halo doesn't fall under the genre :lol:
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it sounds like "kill Zone" i highly recamend renting it singel player is very well done. i mean it's perfect i have no complaints expect. It's funny as heck when he goes morrigan play it with me online it's alot more fun. I crack up because he's friends when like 5 year olds and 20 year olds and i don't like playing. And i've only played with one other girl ever and we both hated it. She was forced to play aswell but by her husband.*chills*
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Eeh, Halo's fun but it's not at all innovative or underrated.
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Kill zone is much to unknown. Any one have a reasion why they like halo?
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Kill zone is much to unknown. Any one have a reasion why they like halo?
Becuase they're cloe minded Microsoft fanboys, who think that Microsoft is better then everyone else?
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It's brain washing and i have proof: turn on xbox, open CD tray leave it open, and turn up the VOL on your tv, don't tough it for 5 mins and listen. Xbox has hidden messages!
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Try playing the cd backwards, like they used to do with records in the 70's, to listen for subliminal messaging.
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it's not the cd it the background of the xbox like when you turn on a ps2 you hear waves. Xbox doesn't have waves it has hidden messages.
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I was making a joke. What does it say, "Microsoft......... Love Microsooooooooooofffffffffftttt......."
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Not sure... it's really really fast or backwards but i hear the word micro
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I think it's just gibberish, I hear it all the time when I'm looking through the menus and such.
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That's the brain washing talking!
"Every thing means something."
-crazy guy
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Not EVERYTHING has a meaning. My black cat rubbed against my leg 5 months ago. Does that mean anything other than he likes me? I don't think so....
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Cat's have a gland near their cheeks that is used as a territory marker. And can be used to attrach a mate.
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So... What're you saying my cat did to me?
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So... What're you saying my cat did to me?
The same thing a dog would've if he had humped your leg instead. *shot*
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Gee..... Thanks, Trig. *brushes leg off*
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That or..you're walking land maker for your cat. ^.^
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walking land-maker...... hrm....
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heh. Walking land-marker Swift. We're just getting more and more nicknames fr him. (Swift, Swiftman, Swiftanator, idiot, Zephyr, dumbass, etc)
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You forgot SWIFFFEEEEEEEEERRRRR!!!!
But yeah...Lots of names for swift...*wonders what you guys will think of next*
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Oh yeah, forgot SWIFFFEEEEEEEEERRRRR!!!!But, you seem to call me *shanks* quite often.*points to self* This is Swift, remember Trig? S-W-F-T. not *shanks*
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AVAST!! Come Shanks, we must perfect out plot to take over the world!!! And make catgirls! Shanks this way TO THE SECRET BATCAVE!! *opens up a bookself and walks down some stairs*
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*pulls Shakespeare head and slides down pole, while the Batman theme plays*
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*puts on a "Trigger" costume* *Is all majestic looking N stuff*
QUICKLY!!! TO THE CATGIRL MOBILE!!! *hops in*
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*jumps in Skiver*
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Swiftman/skivertrans.png) Na na na na, Swiftman! na na na na na nna na, SWIFTMAN! *follows the Catgirl Mobile in flight*
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*rides off to some random bank robbery*
STOP !! FIENDS!!! *punches one in the face* ~BAM!~ YOU TOO! *kicks one's shin* ~BIFF!~
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Swiftman/skivertrans.png) *flys to same robbery, disembarks*
Holy Robberage, Triggerman!
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Indeed Swifer. We must dispatch of these holagens Immedaitly! ~POW~
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Wait, Triggerman! A message in the sky, from the Riddler! *looks up*
A ZEPHYR HOLDS A SECRET MOST DEAR TO HIM
*looks to Triggerman* What could it mean, Triggerman?
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"I dunno Swiftanator....I was never good with many riddles.....Uhhh...His heart?"
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I know it, Triggerman. But, our Trigcomputer can solve it better!
*power on*
|-|3|_|_0. I /\/\/\ t3|-| TrIg3R (0/\/\P.
Let's ask it the answer, Triggerman!
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\/\/}-{/-\7 !z 73|-| /-\|\/$\/\/3/2 7() 73]-[ /2||]|]|,,3??!?!
() &/2437 4|\/|] \/\/1$3 7/21&(0/\-/\|?\_/73/2!!!
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Holy super l33t, Triggerman! I didn't get any of that!
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Yeah it's ok, not many can match my $\_/|?3|2 |_337 $|<1|,,|_$!!!
Anyways...we have an answer....Let's see now...
It say's....
...Forget the stupid riddle and go get yourself some pizza rolls...
>.>
I dunno....Pizza rolls....or riddles....
<.<
*gets into the CatgirlMobile to go buy some pizza rolls*
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/Swiftman/skivertrans.png) Meh, the bank clerks should pack heat now. I have more pressing business to attend to. *flies for California*
Crap! The Skiver is just a figment of my imagination! *fallsout of sky*
Crap. *sits in mud, with forthcoming rain*
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*brain a'splodes* Triggerman, you forgot, Batman never solved any riddles, he always had Robin do it!
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Heh. Robin is a kind of bird, and so is a Swift. XD I just noticed that.
Robin: a kind of bird and a sidekick to Batman
Swift: a kind of bird and a sidekick to Triggerman
And Lazlo, the computer solved the riddle, not Triggerman.
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If I had to be related to a character I'd be the commisioner.
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Yeah, you'd so be the commish. Kary could be either Harley or batgirl, and Broom could be Albert! XD
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I think Sophih would have to be Harley. Kary always seemed more like Ivy to me anyway.
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Ivy.... I can't seem to recall her now....
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She was the plant chick. She was in one of the movies, and she often teamed up with Harley.
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Hmm. I haven't seen too many of the movies. Was it a cartoon one or a live action one?
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She was in one of the live action ones, and I believe there was a cartoon one with her. She was also in one episode of Static Shock where Static had to go to Gotham to help one of his friends.
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LAZLO KNOWS HIS BATMAN!!!
Congrats.
Yes Ivy was the plant chick. xD In one of the movies she got mutated by a syrume that mixed her genes with the plants surrounding her. After she had discovered what her partner doctor was doing (pumping people up and making them steriod freaks).
And she was also in the old batman cartoon they used to play on Cartoon Network.
Ohhhh how i miss the good old days....*sniff*
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We all miss the old days, Trigger. I miss the days when Doom and Descent were the most uber things out there. Now they're such old games that they seem downright archaic. Do people not want to know how they're Halo and Unreal Tournament 2004 started? Well, look at those old games! They started it all! Without Doom and Descent, we wouldn't have the games that we do now! People prefer to be ignorant and stuborn then know of their past.
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Hey! Doom's great, even today.*
*Offer not valid on Doom 3.
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Heh. You should do that more often, Gashy. I had to paste that last bit of text into word and resize it. (I haven't played doom 3 either, but from what my brother says, it's scary, and if he says it's scary, ITS SCARY! it takes a lot to spook that guy, so I ain't gonna be buying doom 3 at any point.)
at least not until I grow some balls....
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that might take awhile Swift *shot*
Doom 3 Scared the hell out of me alot. Hell even AFTER I put in Godmode, and got all the weapons, it scared the shit out of me. I wasn't afriad of the monsters, but I was afraid at the thought of getting frightened. I'm a wuss, and eventually I was like a crack fiend on a bad trip with a BFG running around. It got so bad to the point when I couldn't stand going through a dark halway without running around like a pansy shooting every which way.
*sigh*
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does bfg stand for big fucl<ing gun?
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I actually don't know. The BFG has been in the first Doom too, but I don't know what it stands for. (could very well be what Sophih said, iD isn't above doing that.)
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BFG does indeed stand for Big f\_/cking gun. At least to the people who use it. It has a "real" name. And it was stated in Doom 3. But I wasn't paying attention. But it does have a real name.
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Heh... I lost my guide to my original Doom, so I didn't know if BFG had a real name or not. (I had lost that guide for years. Wish I could find it again....)
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You guys and your Doom... grr, I never played that because I never owned a computer that could run it. I mean, the computer I have now might work with the first Doom, but even then, probably not. I was more into RPGs when that came out, and I never heard of an FPS until GTA 3.
I want to make tiny text.
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I hate to get back on topic, but I loved both Halo games.
I despise Microsoft.
I also love many of the FPS's you all mentioned, especially Perfect Dark and Time Splitters.
Shall I go on with why I loved Halo? Or shall I hold on to mine pearls!
Zaijian,
Tiger
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Do both.
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She was in one of the live action ones, and I believe there was a cartoon one with her. She was also in one episode of Static Shock where Static had to go to Gotham to help one of his friends.
Poison Ivy? Yeah, she was in the 90s Batman cartoon, I'm sure of it. I worshipped that show.
Er...whoops, I hadn't realized how far off topic we've become to notice you guys're talking about something completley different.
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Do both.
All right. Umm... I can't so I'll just do one. HAH. Bear in mind, I'm aware of both Halo's shortcomings and strengths, and those of many of the games listed in the posts above. So yeah, I liked Halo 1 better than 2. I don't think it was incredibly innovative. Unreal did have some pretty great concepts. Halo brought a very new and incredible physics engine to the board, though. There were also a lot less "invisible walls" if you know what I mean.
Scenario: A guy is standing behind a Warthog, hiding. You think, man, if this was real life, I could just toss a grenade in the driver's seat and blow him to smithereens. Or, I could kneel down and shoot his toes from under the car. In Halo, you can do both of those things, while in other games you might be shooting what should be thin air but is for some reason impenetrable clear adamantium.
If you look closely and logically, you'll see that very very few games had such spacial considerations in mind. In fact, I'm not sure if any did. And if they did, no one did it as well or as completely as Bungie. The "alien" thing was a bit too cliche, but I thought their characterization was very unique, and damn entertaining. There were some key differences too, that being a religious order, multiracial, etc. Not just a bunch of bugs who like to eat humans. Still, this wasn't fully developed (and so it was very well) until Halo 2.
In real life, for certain reasons which for now will go unsaid, I have spent several years of my life working in combat situations. It has always interested me to see how people fight (with firearms, archaic weapons, or unarmed, doesn't matter), because some people are good at it, and others aren't, and some people are so bad they are only good at getting other people hurt/killed (the primary reason I despise people who panic). Anyway, combat requires that one choose when and who to fight and what with. Some games, I've come to find, reflect this sort of thought extremely well. Super Smash Bros., Halo (1 not 2), and SW: Battlefront are a few such games. You're probably wondering how the hell these games accomplish this. It's all about what the game allows you to do. Maybe you just have to be a soldier or a great martial artist or something to understand, but I hope not, because you can learn quite a bit about people by watching them play those games.
Man I got so many IMs while writing this I have no idea if I said what I meant to. And since I'm still getting them, I won't be able to look back over it.
O.o Enjoy!
Zaijian,
Tiger
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Scenario: A guy is standing behind a Warthog, hiding. You think, man, if this was real life, I could just toss a grenade in the driver's seat and blow him to smithereens. Or, I could kneel down and shoot his toes from under the car. In Halo, you can do both of those things, while in other games you might be shooting what should be thin air but is for some reason impenetrable clear adamantium.
Accually, I was never able to crouch down enough to see below the Warthog. While in real life I would have been able to go into a Prone position, while in Halo I could not. :P
If you look closely and logically, you'll see that very very few games had such spacial considerations in mind. In fact, I'm not sure if any did. And if they did, no one did it as well or as completely as Bungie. The "alien" thing was a bit too cliche, but I thought their characterization was very unique, and damn entertaining. There were some key differences too, that being a religious order, multiracial, etc. Not just a bunch of bugs who like to eat humans. Still, this wasn't fully developed (and so it was very well) until Halo 2.
This is true. But, only games that were half-assed didn't have, at the very least, a very good storyline, and well designed, orginazed ways for both Freinds and enemies to function. And even LESS FPS's who had this done well. But there have still be plenty of them. In fact, basicly ALL of the more modern FPS's made have at least those things.
In real life, for certain reasons which for now will go unsaid, I have spent several years of my life working in combat situations. It has always interested me to see how people fight (with firearms, archaic weapons, or unarmed, doesn't matter), because some people are good at it, and others aren't, and some people are so bad they are only good at getting other people hurt/killed (the primary reason I despise people who panic). Anyway, combat requires that one choose when and who to fight and what with. Some games, I've come to find, reflect this sort of thought extremely well. Super Smash Bros., Halo (1 not 2), and SW: Battlefront are a few such games. You're probably wondering how the hell these games accomplish this. It's all about what the game allows you to do. Maybe you just have to be a soldier or a great martial artist or something to understand, but I hope not, because you can learn quite a bit about people by watching them play those games.
You know, I'm interested in why you would spend years of your life going through combat simulating situations. Was it just for learning how other people react? Or is there some kinda of other personal reason?
Aside from that...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I look more at how the person acts under those circumstances. I try to put them in the worst situation they can possibly get into. In fact that's when I'm the best I can be. I did 5 months worth of Art homework in ONE day, which inccedentally, was the last day it was ALL due ^_^;. I like to use stratagy with what I do, if I see some person with a deadly weapon, and one with less health, I'll find some EXTREMLY well way to kill them both...I have a knack for that sorta thing. And I'm a PIMP at SSBM.
Anyways, back to the point of Halo. It has GREAT production values. And many well thought out things. And is EXTREMLY fun when playing online with other people, though the Single player mode leaves much to be desired (which much of which was fixed in Halo2). But aside from that, it is a mediocre FPS.
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Trigger - "Accually, I was never able to crouch down enough to see below the Warthog. While in real life I would have been able to go into a Prone position, while in Halo I could not. :P"
Fair enough, but I'm still standing quite firmly by the fact that the spacial and physics engine was impressive and still doesn't have many matches.
Trigger - "Only games that were half-assed didn't have, at the very least, a very good storyline, and well designed, orginazed ways for both Freinds and enemies to function. And even LESS FPS's who had this done well. But there have still be plenty of them. In fact, basicly ALL of the more modern FPS's made have at least those things."
Quite so. Halo may be a bit older than you think though, although honestly I don't know when it did. I do know that I bought it, and the X-box, several years after both came out. Anyway, I agree with you.
Trigger - "Tiger -
'In real life, for certain reasons which for now will go unsaid, I have spent several years of my life working in combat situations. It has always interested me to see how people fight (with firearms, archaic weapons, or unarmed, doesn't matter), because some people are good at it, and others aren't, and some people are so bad they are only good at getting other people hurt/killed (the primary reason I despise people who panic). Anyway, combat requires that one choose when and who to fight and what with. Some games, I've come to find, reflect this sort of thought extremely well. Super Smash Bros., Halo (1 not 2), and SW: Battlefront are a few such games. You're probably wondering how the hell these games accomplish this. It's all about what the game allows you to do. Maybe you just have to be a soldier or a great martial artist or something to understand, but I hope not, because you can learn quite a bit about people by watching them play those games.'
You know, I'm interested in why you would spend years of your life going through combat simulating situations. Was it just for learning how other people react? Or is there some kinda of other personal reason?"
I did say "combat" and "situations" but I didn't say simulating. Unless you count training/practice. That's part of my job. Having finished my last one, I'm waiting for another to come my way. Which is why I have all this free time, which I must admit I'm enjoying; reacquainting myself with old funs and such. Why I do the work I do is for personal reasons, and (like most jobs) money as well, although I am fortunate enough to be able to say money is secondary. Anyway, as far as looking a bit closer at something like mountain-climbing or paintball or a video game like SSB, that IS to see how people react. The true nature of someone is revealed in high stress, fight or flight situations, that really challenge a person's sense of security psychologically, physically, spiritually, you name it. (Note: A soldier who has had training, physical and psychological, probably won't reach that state as easily as a deskworker in Sassafrass, Tennessee, alhtough there are exceptions.) Fight or flight captures it, pretty much. Some people are cowards, some are brave, some will stab you in the back to save themselves, others will take a bullet to save a stranger. BUT, it's not that simple, ever, since the world is gray rather than black or white. Let's say the man who took the bullet for the stranger was wearing a BP vest. That changes the situation. To make a long story short, that's what I mean about learning a lot about people when you make them fight. Fear of pain (even from a paintball) gets people to hide in places they didn't know they could fit, fear of losing (even a match in SSB) can make someone move their fingers faster than ever before. How we behave when that adrenaline gland starts pumping is of utmost interest to me.
Trigger - "Aside from that...
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. I look more at how the person acts under those circumstances. I try to put them in the worst situation they can possibly get into. In fact that's when I'm the best I can be. I did 5 months worth of Art homework in ONE day, which inccedentally, was the last day it was ALL due ^_^;. I like to use stratagy with what I do, if I see some person with a deadly weapon, and one with less health, I'll find some EXTREMLY well way to kill them both...I have a knack for that sorta thing. And I'm a PIMP at SSBM."
Case in point, and well said.
Anyways, back to the point of Halo. It has GREAT production values. And many well thought out things. And is EXTREMLY fun when playing online with other people, though the Single player mode leaves much to be desired (which much of which was fixed in Halo2). But aside from that, it is a mediocre FPS.
To each his own! Although I agree the single player was much better in Halo 2. :P
Zaijian,
Tiger
P.S. - I could NOT figure out how to do the quote markations for this. Enjoy the bootleg version. I'm not stupid, I swear.
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P.S. - I could NOT figure out how to do the quote markations for this. Enjoy the bootleg version. I'm not stupid, I swear.
Ok, I'll just do a quick review for ya.
[qoute] Type in what the person said here[/quote]
And it will come out as this.
Blah blah blah HawtnessMcSexyPants
And then there is...
[quote="Name of person here"]Whatever they said blah blah blah[/quote]
And it will come out as....
he kept one hand on me, and the other on the keyboard
So there you have it. NOW STOP BEING LAZY!!!...Cuase that's my job...*lazies*
Anyways, To each their own indeed. Whatever floats your boat.
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Ah, many thanks!
Zaijian,
Tiger
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Woo, I've been randomly quoted! SPAM PARADE!
(http://www.iranian.com/Diaspora/2004/April/PP/Images/1.jpg)
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Ziek haile mein Fuhrer! ::bood clap, Nazi salute::
THE CHILDREN ARE THE FUTURE.
Zaijian,
Tiger
P.S. - The later it gets, the wilder it gets.
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Heh, Aint that the truth? God bless America. Anyway, it's 5 AM, I should go to sleep now. See ya later, Tiger.
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haha nice German
back in the day (when tere was like 6 members here) we had a germna thread because all of us can speak/type it
yay
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Heh, Aint that the truth? God bless America. Anyway, it's 5 AM, I should go to sleep now. See ya later, Tiger.
I would say something silly about you abandoning me in my most dire hour... but I think I stopped posting before you did. :P
Zaijian,
Tiger
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Just like those damn hearts in zelda, your dissapearing when I need you the most!!!!!
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Thankfully, even though Lazlo is gone, I still have Nayru's Love!
Zaijian,
Tiger
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Lazlo's here, again, just like the hearts, I was in the jar over there.
(http://www.tjrenee.com/images/pet_jar.jpg)
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Use your Biggoron Sword( Which I like it better than the Great So Fairy Sword) To get the hell out of there! Or Put the Giants mask To Overgrown youre self out of there