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General => General => Topic started by: Lazlo Falconi on October 23, 2005, 01:10:35 pm
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Trigger and I had a religious debate today.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: For however much it matters, though. S'not like God's going to be interferring anymore, after that whole Jesus scandal.
Dorifto: xD
You make it sound like some HollyWood fiasco.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Then I did good.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Actually, I may have said that wrong.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: God will, of course, interfer and end things.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: When Bush gets elected for his third term.
Dorifto: I'll take one for the team and stop that before he has to. >>
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: What?
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: You can't do that!
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Haven't you been paying attention to the republicans?
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Bush IS God.
Dorifto: No, he says he's on a mission FROM God. But, as far as I'm concerned, there's no such thing as a god, and I'll try to stop him, even if he was.
Dorifto: He's summoning the Riders of the Apocolypse.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: That's just his cover story
Dorifto: Oh? And I suppose the fact that he's really MJ in disguise is just a cover story too?!
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: What? No! Don't you watch cartoons? White Michael Jackson is an alien sent to take over the world
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: ...By touching children.
Dorifto: XD
I stopped watching cartoons as soon as I found X-Play. Well, not really, I still watch them, but, alot stuff's been happening in the past 3/4th's of a year that's kinda made me watch less of them.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I like to take time to watch them every now and then... When Kasai's on the computer and stuff
Dorifto: I'm either always sleeping, computer, somethign random, or busy doing something else. And never have time for it.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Who isn't?
Dorifto: Jehova God Almighty. All HE does is sit on his ass watching football, then late at night goes streaking.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: ...
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I thought he watched secret girls locker room cams
Dorifto: Nah, he has his angels TIvo it for him so he can watch when he;s not plastered.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Oh yeah. I wouldn't know.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Jesus is my homeboy, but he and his dad don't get along anymore.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: (Teenage hormones)
Dorifto: I just have the Government on my payroll. And even God can't stop the US government.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Yeah, but I'll bet if Bruce Campbell, Chuck Norris, Collin Mockery and Christopher Walkon used thier magic power rings and fused together they could.
Dorifto: XD
Of course. NOTHING can Stop the combined Powers of CN, BC, CM, and CW.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Hmm... What would that unholy creature be called?
Dorifto: Our failed attempt to play God?
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I think we should try it anyway.
Dorifto: Since Jesus and God aren't getting along, now would be the time ot wage war on heaven.
Dorifto: We could totally take over.,
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Maybe we should wait for a supprise attack
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: You know, after America attacks first?
Dorifto: Maybe we should just Destroy earth, and when God comes to check up on us and see's us gone and says "WTF?" we can tackle him and steal his wallet.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: And his car keys.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I hear he drives a popemobile
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I'd love to be in one of those
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: It's like something out of Star Wars.
Dorifto: XD
Dorifto: Just attach some lasers, and a Ludicrious Hyper Drive.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: God's ride is already pimped out like that
Dorifto: He must love plad.
Dorifto: I bet God wears a kilt.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Hmm.. I wonder if he wears anything under it
Dorifto: As Swift, I'm sure he'd know.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: *shudders*
Dorifto: MWHAHAH! Mission accomplished.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Do you think God drinks Coke or Pepsi?
Dorifto: Coke. I think him drinking Pespi would be like Satan driving to work in a snowmobile.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Yeah, but... Like, some guitar heros drank Pepsi
Dorifto: Like who?
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I don't know... I saw it on a commercial a long time ago.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I'm sure God saw that commercial, too
Dorifto: Eh, I remember a couple years back or so they had Pepsi commercials, where some guy got sucked into a pepsi machine and was at like a concert, it was some chick singing, and by this time I had destroyed every can of pepsi within 3 miles.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Oh yeah, I remember that...
Dorifto: Evil
Dorifto: And holy Crap I'm hungry. I'm gonna find something to eat.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Eat some Boo Berry if you have it.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: God eats Boo Berry.
Dorifto: What's Boo Berry?
Dorifto: And I eat little Japanese Girls.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: It's like a blueberry version of Count Chocula.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: And little Japanese girls give me the runs.
Dorifto: Eh, good thing they don't to me. they go well with rice.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: You must have an iron colon.
Dorifto: Or maybe it's just really deformed.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Do you work out with it?
Dorifto: ...Do I work out at all?
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I dunno...
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I'm just saying
Dorifto: besides occasional walks for a few hours, nope.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Maybe you stick dumbells up your rectum.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Some people do it.
Dorifto: O_o
Dorifto: Those people need to be shot with a glove.
Dorifto: And smacked with a rifle.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: I read it in a magazine and couldn't sleep for a few weeks.
Dorifto: XD
Dorifto: Anywaysd, food time...Though hearing that rectum stuff is gonna make eating suck. YOU EBIL BASTARD!
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I do believe you left some things out of it, but maybe I'm just going crazy.
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My thoughts are currently on vacation.
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I do believe you left some things out of it, but maybe I'm just going crazy.
I just copied and pasted.
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Dorifto: I bet God wears a kilt.
Be cool, man.. Yeah.: Hmm.. I wonder if he wears anything under it
Dorifto: As Swift, I'm sure he'd know.
I'm confused on that........
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Out of the three of us, who would have it better with God? You, or the blasphemous TRigger and Lazlo.
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Eeeeeeeeeeasy with the blasphemous rants homies.
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And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu--
Skip a bit, Brother.
And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
Meanwhile.............
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Uh..... Yamino? Your sense of making sense has died.
Out of the three of us, who would have it better with God? You, or the blasphemous TRigger and Lazlo.
Ah, k. I gotcha now.
If you must know, He doesn't wear a kilt. His choice of pantswear.......
IS A SECRET!
KEH KEH KEH!
Thou shalt not know!
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And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy. And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu--
Skip a bit, Brother.
And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three. No more. No less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then, lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.
Meanwhile.............
Monty Python is really god.
And just now going through some old posts at SAB, I found this 7 page long thread about religion that I posted in several times, and though a little quote might be welcome here.
Anyway to re-enforce this post of mine I've come here to relay to you all a delema. I friend of mine developed it. And I want your thoughts about it (to whom it may concerne).
"Forget about free will for a moment. Becuase thats what most christians base their beliefs upon. You must follow whatever god says. And since he is all knowing, and all seeing. He knows what your future is, and you must follow it. And if you are destined to go to hell, then it is gods fault. Since god is all knowing, he knew hell was going to be created. My God is careing, and does not indanger his own "children". And yet he didn't stop hell, and becuase there is no free will, and you must do as he says, you will be eternally tormented. No human mind can comprehend eternity, you can say you can, but you'd be lying. No matter what you have done I believe you should never be tormented for all eternity. So why would God force that fate upon you? God is caring and god is forgiving, and yet he sentances you to damnation forever. Nothing justifies that. So why? God by deffinition is greatest, and even a crazy man can believe god is real. And secondly it is greater to be real in reality then in the mind alone. So he has to exist. So if my god is caring then it has to be so, but someone who is caring would never do something like allow hell to exist or even damn his own creation into it.So there is no god."
Now, yesterday when talking with Lazlo, he brought up "God says it's a sin to watch someone suffer when you can do something about it".
If god isn't supposed to be able to sin, why didn't he stop hell? Can someone explain that one to me?
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Because of the apple that Adam partook, to my knowledge..... It was a trick of the Devil, and from it, sin was born. Adam was warned not to eat from that apple tree, but when offered one by a snake that the Devil's voice was amplified in, sin was born, and thus, Hell also.
Just my theory. One omnipotent can't stop another one. God can try to just undo hell, butt he Devil can just undo God's actions from it.
Like I said, that's my theory from my knowledge, it could be vastly wrong.....
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Damn guestage.... Guess who that was.... -_-;;
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God created the Devil though. In by doing so, he allowed Adam to eat the apple by temptation. God allowed the Devil to exist. If he is ALL POWERFUL, ALL KNOWING, the Devil should be no problem to him.
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The Devil shares simaler powers, however. If you can do anything that you could ever dream with but a thought, then you would, of course, refuse to die, right? You would somehow come up with a way to reincarnate yourself if you hapen to be unmade, correct? Anyone would do that. [but could the master suffer in his own realm? hm... that's something else, though]
Actually...... If I remember all those years-back discussions from my childhood church days, Lucifer was one of the sons of Adam..... Or something, it was SSSOOO long ago....
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Just as there is a way to bring oneself back, there is a way to stop someone from doing so. There's no excuse.
If God is "Infailable" then he should be able to destroy satan. So there goes THAT idea out the window.
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According to the bible, God will destroy Satan, after mankind has atoned for it's sins (which were actually brought about by Adam). Hell does exist, but it is not my belief that humans go there, unless they worship the devil and actually want to go there.
I don't subscribe to any religon, but I was brought up by a Catholic mother and a Jehova's Witness father (they're not annoying like everyone thinks, but those jokes are funny anyway). Catholics believe that humans go to heaven or hell. That's it. But Jehova's Witnesses(and this is what I believe) say that God will only send 144 people to heaven. 144 for all of mankind. That seems like a big number, but it's for all eternity. The rest of us who are good people will be brought back to a 1000 year reign of Jesus, where we will rebuild the world after the war with Satan. After that, however, Satan will come back, to tempt us. Those who fail will recieve the fate of the worst people (Judas, for example). And what is this fate? They simply cease to exist. They just die, forever. No afterlife. Those that made it through Satan's second coming, will become perfect. They will be immortal, as God intended.
But of course, that's seems a little far-fetched. The world would quickly overpopulate.