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Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 13, 2006, 10:57:09 pm
http://megaman.retrofaction.com/index.php?main=articles/editorials/editorial019

I am very, very dissapointed.  Capcom, you are DAMN lucky you put the PSX version of X3 in here.  Had you not, I wouldn't be paying for this thing.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: RetroJape on January 13, 2006, 11:01:33 pm
Wow....that is just...lazy on his part, entirely.

Pardon my french but...What a bitch.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 13, 2006, 11:03:55 pm
Quote from: "RetroJape"
Wow....that is just...lazy on his part, entirely.

Pardon my french but...What a bitch.

No, it's not lazy at all, which surprised the living hell out of me.  What he's being is a louse cheapskate.  

They DID redub the voices for X4
They DID fix the script for X6 AND dub new voices for it.
They DID put Maverick Hunter X's soundtrack in X1
They DID make new remixes for X2's soundtrack

But did they put them in?

No
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: neothe0ne on January 13, 2006, 11:16:38 pm
What a fucking bastard.  So Sony bought out the creator of Mega Man so we would HAVE to buy a PSP to enjoy all this work that SHOULD have been in X Collection?  And there are NO REMIXES?  SIGN ME UP TO BUY A BETA COPY OFF OF IGN, RIGHT NOW!
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: neothe0ne on January 13, 2006, 11:17:37 pm
So what happens when Maverick Hunter X FLOPS IN SALES and Capcom doesn't let him create Maverick Hunter X2?  Hmm?  I guess Capcom just said screw the gamers yet again!  They're seriously going to die this generation....
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 13, 2006, 11:17:58 pm
Actually, it's Capcom of America's fault more than Inafune-san's.  Seeing as the game is most likely a US-exclusive title (I think the original Anniversary Collection was US-exclusive).  Also, it was developed and put together by an in-house CoA developing team, not Inafune-san himself.

Or, so I hear.

Either way, Capcom *promised* these special features and *did not* put them in.

Capcom...

YOU PHAIL!
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Yaminomalex on January 13, 2006, 11:19:10 pm
That's my Capcom! =D
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 13, 2006, 11:20:20 pm
Quote from: "neothe0ne"
So what happens when Maverick Hunter X FLOPS IN SALES and Capcom doesn't let him create Maverick Hunter X2?  Hmm?  I guess Capcom just said screw the gamers yet again!  They're seriously going to die this generation....

That's exactly what I was thinking, too.  I HIGHLY doubt MHX will sell well in the US.  Most people who own PSP will think they are too mature for a game like Mega Man.  Many people in my school own PSPs because they think the DS has too many "kiddy games".  Remaking them for PS2 would have been a better idea, now that I think of it.

But...god, I can't even put it into words how dissapointed and angry I am at Keiji Inafune for that decision.  All those delays, and for nothing.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 13, 2006, 11:21:10 pm
Oh yeah, and if Sony DID buy out the creator of Rockman/MegaMan, The X Collection would've been (A) PS2-exclusive, and (B) All the special features would be on the PS2 version.  The PS2 and GCN versions are identical in every crappy way.

*ZOMGEDIT*

Dammit, Superyoshi, did you NOT read ANY of CJ's post?!  It's CAPCOM OF AMERICA'S fault, NOT Keiji Inafune's!!!
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 13, 2006, 11:22:36 pm
Quote from: "CJMErl / Yami CJMErl"
Actually, it's Capcom of America's fault more than Inafune-san's.  Seeing as the game is most likely a US-exclusive title (I think the original Anniversary Collection was US-exclusive).  Also, it was developed and put together by an in-house CoA developing team, not Inafune-san himself.

See, there's one thing you don't understand, CJ.

Capcom of USA DID do all those things they promised.  Inafune wanted them out so he could make more money on Maverick Hunter X and its so called sequels which aren't even in production yet.  Nor do I  believe that they will ever be made, personally.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: neothe0ne on January 13, 2006, 11:23:03 pm
Except that X2's sound quality is shit from what I hear, and PS2's loading times are actually less than GC's from what I hear, and from what I can see PS2's controller is clearly superior than GC's for playing Mega Man X.  Capcom really fucked us over this time.  Atomic Planet would have done a better job than the naked stripped product we received from Capcom Studio 1.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: CJMErl / Yami CJMErl on January 13, 2006, 11:24:43 pm
Aaaaaaaand...is there proof of this?  I haven't seen ANY of this on any single one of the dedicated fansites (i.e. Atomic Fire, MegaMan Network, Rockman Perfect Memories).  What the hell did I miss?

*ZOMGEDIT*

...never mind.  Seriously, Capcom must hate the GameCube or something.  I'd say Nintendo as a whole, but there's still the EXE and Zero series...
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 13, 2006, 11:26:23 pm
Quote from: "neothe0ne"
Except that X2's sound quality is shit from what I hear, and PS2's loading times are actually less than GC's from what I hear, and from what I can see PS2's controller is clearly superior than GC's for playing Mega Man X.  Capcom really fucked us over this time.  Atomic Planet would have done a better job than the naked stripped product we received from Capcom Studio 1.


Yeah, I heard the same, too.  (Well, we do both go to the GameFAQs boards, heh, even though you're in the GCN board more and I'm in the PS2 board more)

I've honestly never been more dissapointed in a game in my life.  I've been waiting...I think about half a year for this game.  

Once again, I'll just say that I'm only thankful for Capcom putting in the PSX version of X3, with its superior music than the SNES version (of course, in my opinion.  Many people think otherwise)
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Yaminomalex on January 13, 2006, 11:33:08 pm
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y174/Yaminomalex/megamanx2_shot2.gif)

^
At least it we'll still have that.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Jehuty on January 13, 2006, 11:37:59 pm
Wait a second...... all those e-mails that were sent regarding the collection and yet they still didn't put it in.......... unbelievable
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: neothe0ne on January 14, 2006, 12:02:24 am
Capcom followed their ass again.  First they got the idea that "larger userbase = more sales".  So they reduce GameCube exclusives by also releasing the games on PS2.  Needless to say, the PS2 sales were abominable.  Then, they decide to remake Resident Evil on the DS and Mega Man on the PSP.  (needless to say, we already know about userbases...)  Now, Inafune decides he wants to expand on Maverick Hunter X.. so he screws us gamers over to do so, and Capcom had the audacity to allow him to do this to us.  This is unacceptable.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 14, 2006, 12:43:07 am
http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=926372&topic=25769899

Ha ha, crazy GameFAQers.  Boycotting MHX...not a bad idea at all.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Nightmare X on January 14, 2006, 01:51:27 am
Keiji Inafune is a dickhead that doesn't give a shit about his fans.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Peaches on January 14, 2006, 03:55:34 am
well, I'm certainly not going to buy that.  At least Megaman had some remixes and stuff.

edit: I meant the previous collection.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Monkeydog on January 14, 2006, 06:29:16 am
Well there's no way I'm ever going to enjoy remasted X's...since there's no way in hell I'm buying a PSP.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: RetroJape on January 14, 2006, 05:00:36 pm
Quote from: "Superyoshi"
Quote from: "RetroJape"
Wow....that is just...lazy on his part, entirely.

Pardon my french but...What a bitch.

No, it's not lazy at all, which surprised the living hell out of me.  What he's being is a louse cheapskate.  

They DID redub the voices for X4
They DID fix the script for X6 AND dub new voices for it.
They DID put Maverick Hunter X's soundtrack in X1
They DID make new remixes for X2's soundtrack

But did they put them in?

No
Well then PSP and Maverick Hunter better be worth the money, or I am gonna be pissed.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Ringman on January 15, 2006, 06:55:09 pm
now i'm pissed that I preordered the collection. It's really buggy and they actually remixed the music and then took it out.

The PSX version of Megaman x3 is crappy (except the dialog music which is better than the original). In the SNES games, when sounds overlap, it makes a loud buzzing noise. The screen is stretched at the top. The dialog sounds in megaman x4-6 are really high pitched now. The Japanese voices were removed from mmx (the only mmx voices I liked).

meh... I'd rather Atomic Planet did this than crapcom. At least Vile Didn't say "IHATEU!!"


Oh yeah, and at the end of Megaman x1, Sigma says "why you done this to us" instead of "why HAVE you done this to us"

and

at the end of megaman x2 is says "Those sacrificed themselves" instead of "those WHO sacrificed themselves".


What are we going to find out next, that they saved correct grammar for Irregular Hunter x?!
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: neothe0ne on January 15, 2006, 08:12:31 pm
Well, I hadn't dished out the dough for X Collection yet, mainly because I was losing faith in Capcom's quality control, and after all the reviews came out... there was no firm statement about the voice acting or the music.  They also said the emulation was faithful, but I have to disagree after what I've seen and heard.

Make no mistake that Maverick Hunter X is going to see troubled sales, though.
Title: Wow. My respect for Keiji Inafune just went down...A LOT.
Post by: Superyoshi on January 16, 2006, 06:00:37 pm
Ok, I bought it yesterday, and have yet to hear any buzzing noises when the music loops.  

Actually, the music loops aren't THAT bad for X1 and X2.  There is no pause at all, it just plays the song from the intro again.  I've noticed that in X4, Cyber Peacock's voice (When you hit him with Soul Body) is gone now.  Not to mention the "Hadoken!" sound from X1 is gone as well.

Another thing with the sound, all the music sort of echos when it stops.  I actually like this.  Not that it's better, but it sounds kinda cool.

Oh, and there are absolutley NO noticeable load points in X3.  The only thing I noticed was that when you switch to Zero, it takes a few seconds to load.

And, Ringman, don't even dare say that AC would have done better.  All they did was port the PSX versions for 1-6 (Which is why they were so well emulated) and used the PSX version of 8 (Even though that was horribly emulated).  So what does that leave out?  Mega Man VII of course.  It was the only game that they had to put the "effort" into emulating.  I suggest you play MMAC again to see how much of an INCREDIBLY horrible job they did on it.  Capcom went through the trouble to get rid of EVERY hint of slowdown in EVERY SINGLE GAME (Remember Dark Dizzy's stage?  Yeah, it's fixed), so don't even say that Capcom did a bad job porting these games on here.

The only problems I've noticed so far is, of course, the grammar for one thing, and X1's sounds are a bit weird, Sting Chameleon's noise thing (You know what I mean) seems to be lower in pitch than it was on the actual cartridge (I say this because if you play MMX on a rom, it sounds very disstorted), in X2, Wire Sponges stage seems a bit too dark when it starts raining.

Overall, I'm pleased with this collection (COLLECTION, not extras).  Would I be even more pleased Inafune wasn't a money hungry bastard?  Of course I would, but this collection of games is pretty well made.

One more thing.  Is it me or does X3 play very, very smooth?  Must be because it's the PSX version.

(Note that I'm playing on PS2, not GCN)